buddha

lavine will cost nothing but money if theyre smart about it.  the bulls have been openly trying to get rid of him and had no takers.  (im not advocating for lavine, but i can see these idiots dealing ivey for him when theyre basically the same player only lavine is the fully developed version and ivey is still a pup)

last year you had guys like divencenzo and coby white available.  two years ago malik monk was available.  guys you could have had for less than $10m who dramatically outplayed their deals and would have brought shooting to a team desperate for shooting.

these are the types of guys they should be looking for this year, not taking on joe harris for two seconds.

5 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

Why do teams keep signing Beverly? What does he provide? I can't believe he's still in the league because he doesn't appear to be a good player. 

good defender.  agitator who gets under the other team's skin.

i hate him.  he's a cancer.

and what real difference does adding a president of basketball operations on top of all this mean?  JUST FIRE WEAVER!  why add another layer of bureaucracy on top of the multiple layers you already have?  

tom gores just doesnt care.  i dont understand how a guy who made billions by taking distressed properties, stripping them of excess management and labor and making them profitable, is doing the exact opposite in detroit.

makes me wonder if they just got lucky with the other businesses too.  bought them at the right time for cheap and then naturally watched the value grow?  that's all he's done with the pistons.  he's done nothing but make one bad decision after another for 15 years and the team has increased in value 10 fold.

10 hours ago, NYLion said:

Tobias Harris 0 points. His performance in the playoffs might save the Pistons from themselves.

he'll be a piston.  3 years $70 million.

JEIII's latest is the ol' make an offer to the beat writer for another team for a trade.  each beat writer basically said "no way."

the pistons dont have the assets to trade for an available GOOD player, much less an available STAR player.

duren and this year's #1 for ingram and the pels' #1.  nope.

duren and fournier for poetl, bruce brown and a #1 pick this year.  nope.

duren, ivey, and this year's #1 pick for lauri markkanen.  nope.  with a big ol' laughing emoji that this wouldnt even be CLOSE to what they would want for markkanen.  five frp/frs is what it would take or maybe 3 first round picks and cade. similar to the donovan mitchell trade.

these are just beat writers, but the overall tenor is that the pistons' assets are not looked at as valuable other than cade and maybe isaiah stewart.  this year's number one is not worth much because the draft class sucks, and ivey, duren, etc are not seen as valuable players.

and we cant trade future ones because we still owe one to the knicks.

we are four years into the worst rebuild in nba history and we have very few assets and NEGATIVE draft capital.

the incompetence of this front office is amazing, matched only by the incompetence of ownership in keeping it around.

46 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

I don't know that there is a "star" out there to be had this offseason. In previous offseasons you had the likes of Johnny G and Matthew Tkachuk out there and few seemed to have the appetite to pay what it costs to get one of those players. Maybe Toronto gives up one of their big three, but beyond that, whose else would really be on the trade block for us to even look at?

one of toronto's big three if they lose game 7 in boston.

winnipeg may be willing to trade a player to get off some salary.

sign guentzel?

31 minutes ago, casimir said:

What the heck kind of hugs you got going on there?

no hugs allowed.  you might get sued.

47 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

If Lalonde's comments at the end of the season are any indication then he would probably want Danielson up on the main roster. Lalonde's comments indicated he wanted to give more kids a chance. It would be something to see all of Edvinsson, Mazuer, Wallinder, and Danielson all up on the main roster early on in the season next year.

the wings could use the cap space to chase a difference maker.

or deal some prospects for a star.

i thought danielson stood out in the preseason games LAST year.  like some here, i almost expect him to make the team out of camp next year.  and if not, he'll be up sometime in the season.

then again, they made edvinsson wait all year when he was a clear upgrade on what they had.

i forgot about justin holl on defense, lol.  easy to forget him.  

47 minutes ago, slothfacekilla said:

I'm expecting it honestly

theyre going to have to make some deals or eat some money to get all the kids up next year.

berggren and johannson are out of options.  mazur and kasper are chomping at the bit.  danielson looks amazing.

who are your lines?

debrincat-larkin-raymond

blank-compher-blank

fabbri-copp-rasmussen

blank-blank-blank

that's taking out kane, perron, fischer, sprong, and veleno because theyre all free agents.  i dont know if you want that many rookies.  it looks like they want perron back, maybe on kane, yes on fischer, and maybe on veleno, no on sprong.

defense:

walman-seider

edvinsson-chairot

petry-maata

johannson

that's with ghost being a free agent.

goal:

husso/lyon

i'm thinking that cutting husso or ltir may be his destiny.  he's hurt an awful lot.

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53 minutes ago, Deleterious said:

And none of them have really moved the needle for me.

Should start a pool to guess when he mentions JJ Redick.  

well.....arn tellum was jj's agent so...

2 hours ago, slothfacekilla said:

 

Nate is on another level right now, no surprise moving to a better team made his points explode but he's leading the team too.  I think he's tied for 3rd for WHL playoff points overall right now too.  For a guy that plays a complete game this is great to see.

jonathan toews.

1 hour ago, NYLion said:

Not surprised. The Lions took a lot of guys that were high on Brugler's draft list. 

I always wonder about these rankings. Do they rank teams drafts based on pure value or do they account for where the team drafted and how they did relative to draft position?

For instance, the Bears had two top 10 picks while the Lions drafted 29th so based on draft position alone, you'd expect the Bears to get better value so you'd expect them to get better prospects. I don't know, just a thought exercise on my part and I should know better because nothing ever comes good from me having to think.

i think the lions had a brilliant draft considering where they were picking.

bears took the obvious #1 pick and a receiver everyone liked.  i also remember the same things being said about trevor lawrence and while he's been good - great at times - he hasnt been patrick mahomes.  we'll see about the bears.  they are a lousy organization, but sometimes they luck themselves into good teams.  hopefully this is not one of those times.

4 minutes ago, Deleterious said:

You can have a poorly built team and a bad coach.

 

detroit fans know this very well.

54 minutes ago, MichiganCardinal said:

I have a buddy who is a CU alum and I don't think a lot of them care how crazy he is. He's made them relevant again for the first time in 30 years.

relevant for what reason?  theyre a clown show that got housed the minute they stepped up in competition.

it will be the same thing next year.  shedeur can probably win them some games with his ability, but not against good teams.  that team is nothing but mercenaries who dont care about winning, their only concern is themselves.  and that starts with the coach.  deion is the same way, a selfish narcissist.

and you have a qb who is obviously favored by the coach and who only cares about himself.  he'll throw the team under the bus when they dont play well, he'll sulk.  no one will want to give it all for a guy like that.

not to mention the lack of talent up front.  it takes a while to build a solid oline.  you cant just import pieces in the portal every year.

most first team all pros by lions draftees (only players who actually played for the lions, so no otto graham, johnny robinson, ya tittle...):

joe schmidt 8

barry 6

jack christensen 6

d*ck stanfel 5

suh 3

karras 3

calvin 3

herman moore 3

yale lary 3

you got two first team all pros in the same draft.  that's more than the previous ten years of lions' drafts combined (special teamers dont count).  you got one really good starter at a premium position (mcneil), two players who developed in solid starters in year 3 (barnes and iffy) and one second round bust.

previous lions drafrs have resulted in one great player (barry  calvin, suh, herman moore, lem barney, charlie sanders) or two very good players (blades/spielman, brown/glover), but none of them had multiple first team all pros by third year guys.  not pro bowls, first team all pros.  that's an amazing class.

this is a hall of fame draft class and is probably the best lions draft class since 1958 (alex karras and wayne walker).

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/40064987/deion-sanders-shedeur-sanders-clap-back-colorado-critics

deion sanders continues to be a bad, small, petty person.

why anyone would send their kid to colorado is beyond me.  theyre not even good at football.

brugler rated the lions draft as #3 in the league.

bears were #1.

btw, lebron walked off the floor without shaking hands with the nuggets last night.  i'm sure there will be a federal inquest into this outrageous behavior like there was when isiah did it.

9 minutes ago, Deleterious said:

Could be.  But he has a pretty consistent history of opting out when he can.  I would say financial reasons would be a bigger motivator here.

He can sign a max deal that is 35% of next years salary cap or 105% of his salary this year.  So his pay is going up either way.  

He might also get extra years that he wouldn't normally get.  Say his current deal has 2 years left.  He looks fantastic now, but at his age a lot can change in 2 years.  Maybe nobody gives him a max deal then.  But sign a deal now for 3 or 4 years and those years will be at max value.  That could be an extra hundred million for him.

 

unless he's going to wean himself off PEDs, i think he'll be ok.

4 hours ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

Saw this question on HFBoards so I will ask it here. Would the Wings have faired any better against the Rangers than the Capitals did?

no

16 hours ago, MichiganCardinal said:

WalterFootball's ratings for those who care:

 

The only team to receive an A+ was the Eagles. The Lions were one of four teams to receive an A, alongside the Colts, Bengals, and Ravens. On the other end of the spectrum, the Falcons received a Millen and the Vikings were the only team to receive a D.

he's been railing against JJ for the entire process.  so the guy that said jimmy clausen was a future hall of famer gave the vikings a D for taking mccarthy.

17 hours ago, MichiganCardinal said:

I was thinking in the 2021 Draft Grade thread.... If we aren't going to re-sign Alim because of cost (which I don't think is a foregone conclusion, but is possible), is there any chance Brad looks to move on him before the trade deadline? Particularly if Martin makes progress this year and Mingo looks like he's here to stay?

I'd hate to see Alim go, he's one of my favorite players on that defense, but I'd hate it even more if he went for nothing. And high quality DTs don't grow on trees, especially not at 24 years old. I expect he might command a high 2nd or a low 1st though, and if you're not going to re-sign him it's hard not to think long and hard about that return on investment.

you dont trade a player like that in a super bowl window.

and you cant pay everybody.