buddha

37 minutes ago, Jason_R said:

I get it but his timeline is not the fan timeline. That is the real point. 

I believe his timeline (and Ilitch’s) is when C/C/R come off the books.

compher isnt coming off the books for another 2 years. 

so we continue to dabble around the margins until larkin is 31?

45 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

I'll grant Cossa has been inconsistent, but he was simply outstanding for a long stretch in GR, there is some kind of talent there. Maybe playing 2nd string would have been exactly how to break him in successfully. But we'll never know.

every goalie in grand rapids has been amazing.  so do his numbers say cossa is amazing, or that grand rapids defense is amazing?

i would love to see cossa in detroit.  unless they trade him, he WILL be in detroit next year.  

it could be yzerman being too conservative, or it could be that - like danielson, and like asp - he's not ready or not that good.

34 minutes ago, Jason_R said:

There was enough smoke around him being involved in conversations about trades for a couple of high end forwards that I believe he was trying to pull off something big. I don’t expect he will be a big player in FA until he gets Copp/Compher/ Rasmussen off the books. But I expect he will revisit potential trades over the summer and I don’t rule out the possibility that he could surprise us. 

sure.  but he didnt pull it off.  that's the point.

21 minutes ago, lordstanley said:

The Habs have three goalies - Montembault, Dobes and Fowler - and will get rid of one. Dobes is a 24 year old 5th rounder and Fowler is a 21 year old 3rd rounder. Fowler and Dobes both have trade value because both have been allowed to build up a portfolio of NHL starts. 16 games for Fowler this season, 40 games for Dobes this season after Fowler last season. Cossa could have played 20 games this season instead of Talbot, sink or swim.  If Yzerman and McLelland suspected he would fail, let's stop pretending and ditch him on someone before the rest of the NHL finds out, if they haven't already.

we all said the same thing about asp and danielson and they both kind of sucked at the nhl level.

i'm down on stevie right now but i'm not sure bringing up the rookies would have made a positive difference this year.

2 hours ago, Jason_R said:

 

I think Steve was looking to make a big deal at the deadline for a top forward and I expect him to fill that gap this summer. I also expect we will see the team move on from at least one under-performing vet. 

we all said the same thing last summer and we signed mason appleton and JVR.

6 hours ago, Deleterious said:

 

who are 5 guys who will never do **** in the nba.

next year's draft class isnt as good, i wonder if we'll still see as much blatant tanking?

8 hours ago, gehringer_2 said:

Somewhere, lost in all the Noise and Chaos that is the current US government, there now are  proposals beginning percolate between the Admin and the Senate, and enough interest that something may yet emerge. They could take some of the issues out the court jurisdiction, possibly rationalize things a bit, or just make it all worse! But in any case, I don't think we need to worry about the current state being the final word for college sports.

no, but this admin isnt organized enough to do anything about it.

Just now, Mr.TaterSalad said:

I hate the way the system is, but it's how it is. Dusty May is doing what I pleaded for years for Harbaugh to do. He's doing it the SEC way and finding success because he's a great coach himself. It's really ****ty that this is what college athletics has become, but at least Michigan finally caught up in the NIL era. 

once you made it legal, you opened the door to sports obsessed schools with huge, rich alumni to open their pocketbooks.  michigan, ohio state, indiana...

it was always a benefit to michigan once they got comfortable with the idea.  now that they are, you see them winning.

with that said, dusty may was the biggest part of that.  football has more money than god but couldnt get out of its own way, michigan put together a great team, and then coached them well enough to win.

dusty earned that big ol raise he's about to get.  

the big ten is champs in football, mens bball, and womens bball.

Money talks.

6 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

UConn hung about as tough as you could and still lose.

So, is Warde Manuel still a moron for Sharrone Moore or a genius for Dusty May?  

yes

40 minutes ago, Hongbit said:

Nearly every NBA player will want to be in Chicago again now that Josh Giddey is there toying with the rest of the league.   

did he steal those toys from his 15 year old "friends?"

normally i would assume keith gave is supporting mcclellan because mclellan is giving him information, but gave is retired, right?  maybe larkin talks to him still.

he's right to call out yzerman.  its just the same stuff we've all been saying for the last couple of years, but some of us (me) gave yzerman a long leash until this year's collapse finally pushed everyone over rhe edge.

what did we say last year: why is rasmussen still on this team?  kane was "fine", but is he a guy busting his ass every night?  compher is everyone's whipping boy.  copp has disappeared.  jvr and appleton are depth passengers.

they have been very conservative.

keith gave coming out strong!

4 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

and/or driving themselves too hard because there is no other help?

Hockey is a game that can be played at an unsustainable level but only for so long. That true of both teams and individuals.

raymond is small and young.  larkin is old and has been injured quite a bit in his career.

it could just be bad luck and not because yzerman doesnt know what he's doing.

5 minutes ago, Shinzaki said:

He's essentially playing on one leg right now...  Raymond..OTOH..may have an undisclosed injury.  Heard Stoney on 97.1 Saturday morning.  He said Raymond may be working through a pec tear.  He also said they offered Danielson in trades at the deadline but the interest was weak

them being injured makes more sense.  but then that is a problem because its two years in a row they've both been hurt at the end of the year.  bad luck?  or too small?

who would stoney have gotten that info from?  yzerman is notoriously tight lipped.  if its true, it tells you everyone else sees him as a 3C just like a lot of draft experts did when he came out.

34 minutes ago, Deleterious said:

When is the last time the Bulls or Knicks signed a big time free agent?

Two of the best cities in America and I couldn't tell you the last time either one signed a max money type free agent.  

derozan was a sign and trade but that's kind of a free agent signing.

ben wallace?  

carlos boozer?

1 minute ago, Deleterious said:

The Chicago news that really punched Buddha in the gut.  Angel Reese was traded.  

the subaru driving population in chicago will be devastated.

1 hour ago, Deleterious said:

All this time I just thought the rumors were because his daughter goes there.  Big downgrade for him, kind of odd.  

 

lol.  the university that brought you the bill belichick disaster decide to hire another pro guy to lead a college team.

not sure what's going at unc.

20 minutes ago, Deleterious said:

 

time to bump billy donovan upstairs.  that would be the easieat thing to do, so that's likely what the bulls will do.

bottom line is that having six picks in round 2 in 2019 and 2020 have netted you almost nothing.  that should be the foundation of depth for this squad or dealt to provide depth.  

the time for blaming kenny is running out.

he's been drafting all work ethic players since kasper.

kasper, mbn, bear, genborg.  they OVERDRAFT that "type" of player.

bringing in chairot was to get that type of player.  edvinsson and seider are huge and both are physical.  faulk is huge.

he has been trying to accumulate big physical players.  i'm not sure that's the ultimate problem.  extending ras seemed like a decent idea at the time because he was ao cheap and coming off the best two months of his career.  didnt work out.  copp males sense as line 2/3c.  compher makes no sense and never did.

at the end of the day, line one has to be better.  raymond, larkin, debrincat, and to a lesser extent kane are your offensive skill players and they have let the team down in march/april two years in a row (except debrincat).  and the fact that they need to rely on kane so much just tells you how desperate they are for high end offensive talent.

kasper, asp, and danielson were drafted to be those types of players and provide that offense and they havent done it yet.  raymond and larkin are paid to be those players and they havent done **** down the stretch.  look at those two for the reason the team cant score in a whorehouse with a thousand dollar bill tied to their faces.

23 minutes ago, Jason_R said:

 

Then he had Bear ranked over Danielson, MBN, and Finnie which had me wondering whether he is simply over-rating a prospect who has not yet shown himself in the NHL.

bingo

buff, in shape luka didnt last very long...

1 hour ago, Motor City Sonics said:

And by the way.   Why Talbot?    He's brutal.  He's been brutal all season.    What does Cossa have to do?          He was pathetic yesterday.   Yeah, I know the defense wasn't great, but at least 2 of those goals should never have happened. 

 

 

cossa's been crap in grand rapids.  be better.  that's what he has to do.