buddha

he's always been a big religious guy.

not only is his knee injured probably beyond repair, he's also dumb.  regardless of how you feel about pride month, shut your pie hole and keep it to yourself.  he's not good enough to say those things and stay in the league.

50 minutes ago, slothfacekilla said:

Even thinking about trading Raymond seems crazy to me, it feels like the Maple Leafs getting rid of Marner and their fans thinking their team actually improved because of it.

marner is a much better player than raymond.

i love lucas.  i want him to succeed.  but if the wings are going to challenge for stanley cups, he needs to be one of the best players on the ice.  right now he's not.

can he grow into that?  i hope so.

as everyone here has said ad nauseum, the wings dont have enough elite talent and they dont hsve enough hard players.  right now raymond is neither.

hopefully he grows into it.

2 hours ago, Deleterious said:

Well, that is certainly a take.

I think they lose to OKC and San Antonio, and it's a tossup with Boston.  Nobody else in the east concerns me after Boston.  So I would have them 3rd or 4th I guess.  Assuming Cade is relatively healthy of course.

 

fully healthy they are behind cleveland.  i think they've passed the knicks because cade is now better than brunson.

behind boston for sure.

philly?  they will never be "fully healthy" so it doesnt really matter.  but a healthy embiid would destroy the pistons.

without cade the pistons are 50/50 to get bounced in round one.

raymond is young, on a great contract, and has provided nothing the last two years in crunch time?

would you trade him?  you could get a king's ransom for him.

as mad as i am at him, i probably wouldnt deal him.  he's still young.  if they could get a guy like tuch to be on line one, it might be different.  i supppse that's what mbn or bear is supposed to eventually be.

trying to thread the needle between larkin/debrincat's prime and seider/raymond's prime is proving difficult.

23 minutes ago, Deleterious said:

So the Pistons are big pussies.  Ausar questionable, Duren, Harris, Robinson all doubtful.  

They should get hit with a massive fine.  

will okc sit half their team too?

the best part is now we dont havr to watch that stupid christian laettner shot over and over again while the announcers fellate duke.  they can show the shot that BEAT duke over and over.

the sad part is that it wasnt coach k's arrogant ass on the sideline that had to endure it.  scheyer may not be a rhodes scholar, but he doesnt come across as a hypocritical smug jack ass like "coach k."

1 hour ago, romad1 said:

So that was the lesser brother of the ultrastar.  i'm worried that with the bulk additions of various kid brothers and coach kids in the Michigan sports that we might see one of those happen.  Then again, back to your point the issue is put the best players on the floor during critical moments.  Charlie May wasn't trying to shoot a 3 during the competitive parts of the game.  

I realize the lesser Boozer kid is better than a comp to Charlie May but still.  

jon scheyer is from the (rich) suburbs of chicago.  i used to work for a guy whose kids went to the same high school.  said scheyer was dumber than a box of rocks.  now that was a long time ago, and he did go to duke (lol) so maybe he's picked up some smarts over the years, but still...

then again, you dont have to be smart to coach sports.

45 minutes ago, lordstanley said:

Because your point that they’re just not good enough seems accurate. Other teams have dug deep and reeled off wins when they had to. It’s one thing to lose touch with Carolina and Tampa. But how sad it is to in just 8 days fall 8 points behind and 6 points behind Boston after being tied with them. And pathetic to now be tied with mediocre Ottawa and Philadelphia after being 8 and 9 pts up on them at the beginning of this month. Copp missed a whopping 3 games. Larkin was back for then losses to Ottawa and Philly. Completely fragile team. 

its depressing.  three years in a row its the same thing.

will larkin cry about not getting enough help at the deadline this year?

yzerman really needs someone - anyone - outside of seider/raymond/edvinsson to step up and do something.  and if theyre not, ****ING TRADE THEM FOR SOMETHING.

and quite frankly, can lucas raymond get some stick?  doesnt your supposed best offensive player need to step it up?  i know what happened two years ago, but he's been pretty quiet this year and last when they needed him.

2 hours ago, lordstanley said:

Boston storms back from 3-0 down to tie Columbus in final seconds and win it in shootout. I guess it is good news for the Wings as within 2 pts of Pittsburgh or Columbus. But Boston and Montreal (who have won 5 straight after late loss to the Wings, including twice over Carolina) are out of reach now for the Wings. Only the 2nd wildcard spot is available, realistically.

But scoreboard watching seems increasingly pointless without the Wings doing the bare minimum to help themselves. 

honestly, i've lost interest.  i just assume theyre going to roll over and lose.

(until they win a game and then i'm right back in it)

2 hours ago, gehringer_2 said:

two point lead and the ball, all Boozer has to do is hold the ball, they have to foul him and he can put it out of reach at the line. Terrible end to a huge performance.

horrible coaching job.

1 hour ago, Hongbit said:

Impressive fear for Dusty May to take two different programs to the final four in 4 years. 

Dusty March

theyre just not good enough.

big ten continues to roll.

that was a huge huge win.

if they went full tank, the move would have been to trade larkin.

8 hours ago, gehringer_2 said:

LOL, c'mon Buddha, you think Chris Ilitch has been in a cocoon all his life as #1 son and heir apparent while his family ran a hockey team? Ok, sure.

i certainly dont feel he's some evil genius like you do, that he's holding back detroit sports teams by pinching pennies.  this tigers' summer sort of undercut your thesis on that one.

i think he's a nepo baby who hasnt done the work like his dad did.  i'm not sure why you think otherwise.

8 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

I think it's pretty certain Ilitch and Yzerman had talked through the immediate future of the team when he hired him and part of discussion would have to have been "I want this team improving starting tomorrow" vs "invest the time you need to make this team better". Once that was decided, sure it's all Yzerman, but any owner is involved enough to have made that initial guidance determination, and if you were hired as a GM and your owner didn't, you'd be a fool to take the job.

you "think its pretty certain" based on what?  again, you put stock in illitch having a plan other than yzerman falling into his lap and him saying "ok."  i think its more likely yzerman said "i'll take the job, but the farm system is **** and it will take ten years to rebuild and i want him, him, him, and him to come to my staff and a budget for whatever i want."

yzerman had all the leverage and illitch has no history of knowing anything about hockey or any connections in the league to make a judgment on who to hire.

6 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

bottom line is that Yzerman (and maybe Ilitch) didn't want to pay the price for Holland having let things get so bad, which was to be a bad team longer. In a capped league there are only so many levers. Outside of the three big draft hits, they haven't scouted better than the rest of the league, which is one of only three ways to get better. They didn't lose enough to collect more top picks, which is the 2nd way to get better, and Yzerman has not managed to pick any other GM's pocket in a trade, which is the third way to get better. If you don't do any of those, what can you expect the outcome to be? So they either need to go back to losing and collecting picks, they need to trade better, or they need to scout better. How do either of those last two things improve unless you upgrade the people tasked to do them who haven't done them well enough so far to produce the needed improvement?

i dont think illitch had anything to do with it.  i think it was all yzerman.  i doubt illitch is that involved in the day to day.

27 minutes ago, sagnam said:

You might be on to something. Maybe it’s becuase of Larkin that they don’t want to sign here.

jason previously stated that players want to play with dylan larkin.  i'm asking who.  

48 minutes ago, Jason_R said:

Knucklehead

****ing idiot is more like it.

38 minutes ago, Deleterious said:

If you could wave a wand and make every team healthy and not tanking, I think New Orleans would be the worst team in the league. 

Imagine being that bad and not having a first round pick this year. 

I would fire Joe. 

derrick queen has fallen off rhe map a little bit too.  you know, the reason why they gave up an unprotected first round pick in a loaded draft?

44 minutes ago, Jason_R said:

I don’t agree with the sentiment that nobody wants to come to Detroit. Detroit is the 12th largest media market in the NHL and an original six team. It is also home to many NHL players. It is a town known for an intensely supportive fan base. If you are a free agent and your choice is between Detroit and Ottawa does anyone really think that players will flock to Ottawa? Columbus? Calgary? Raleigh? Buffalo? Winnipeg? Maybe some prefer NYC, Vegas, LA. Maybe some prefer no tax states. But these guys want to get paid, they want to play, and they want to compete. Detroit wasn’t competitive five years ago or even three. They are on the cusp now. 

Also, maybe I’m forgetting someone but the only player I remember using a NMC to veto a trade to Detroit was Tyler Myers who apparently has a child with special needs, who was born and has family in Texas, and who ended up in Dallas. Faulk had a 15-team no trade clause, so either Detroit was not on it, or he willingly waived it. 

what free agents have signed here to play with dylan larkin?

15 minutes ago, slothfacekilla said:

You know the fanbase is down bad when people are pining for the chance to draft Shane Wright

there were folks on this site clamoring to trade up to draft shane wright...

the idea that everyone loves dylan larkin and wants to play with him is a myth.

didnt we go through this at the trade deadline when players were using their nmc to NOT come to detroit?

and yet still has PE buy ad space on the floor.