buddha

michigan-msu getting a little salty.  from izzo's usual pout fest and baby attitude when he doesnt win to dusty calling fears out for dirty play.

spicy.

Just now, 1984Echoes said:

Why do I deserve this?

are you troy weaver?  if not, its not directed at you.

1 minute ago, 1984Echoes said:

That's why I said "we're short".

Thanks Troy Weaver.

2 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said:

This article is on ESPN and concerns the Luka-AD trade...

The Luka trade: Four questions on the one-year anniversary - ESPN

 

However, there's a blurb that is perfect for the Pistons (notice how if we replaced "Doncic" with "Cade Cunningham"... that it works out exactly the same for what is needed on the Pistons to maximize Cade... We're still short a couple 3&D wings and a stretch-PF or stretch-5; and we're missing that one guy who can secondary ball-handle/shot-create to support Cade...) :

 

On the other side of the deal, the Lakers continue to be a work in progress. The irony of the Doncic trade is that over the couple of years preceding it, Dallas had done an excellent job surrounding him with exactly the sort of talent required to maximize his skills: a pair of rim-running, shot-blocking centers; 3-and-D guards and forwards to play defense and hit 3s around him; and another high-level shot creator to take pressure off him when he's on the court while running the team when he's not.

 

 

were ron holland and ausar thompson supposed to be "3 and d" guys?

cause theyre not.

one more thing on the bulls - because bulls suffering is the best kind of schadenfreude this side of buckeye schadenfreude - the heat were so pissed they blew a game to the bulls on saturday that they beat them by 43 points tonight, leading by as many as 54.  the bulls shot 15% from 3.  former #4 pick in the draft patrick williams was 0-7, which is only remarkable because he actually cared enough to shoot 7 times, and potential piston coby white went 0-6.  one of his off nights, of which there are many, usually against teams that care to try on defense (make note for any future playoff game appearances).

my favorite bulls management moment was when they insisted they needed to get younger and more athletic to build around jimmy butler, so they signed dwyane wade, rajon rondo, and drafted denzel valentine.

the jokes just write themselves.

if you thought troy weaver sucked at his job, check out what its like to be a bulls fan:

31 minutes ago, Deleterious said:

Hmmm.  Not real sure what they even have to offer.

 

they have all their picks and...josh giddey?  coby white's busted hamstrings?  ayo dosunmu's hustle and broke shot?  dalen terry?  noa essengeh?  

does buzelis, three first rounders, and two pick swaps (does milwaukee have picks to swap?) get it done?  

30 minutes ago, Deleterious said:

He just needs to suck it up and find his way to Sacramento.  Go score 30 a night, play no defense and win nothing.  

it would be the best for everyone.  it worked out for chris webber...

28 minutes ago, Deleterious said:

The good news is, restricted guys rarely get signed to offer sheets.  Pistons could say 4/$100 go find a better offer.

i'd be fine with that.  i'm sure duren wouldnt.

as noted by all, duren isnt the "second guy" the pistons need.  he cant really score on his own even if he is getting better at it.  the one thing i will say about duren is that he's gotten better every year.  he makes moves the basket now on his own.  he's a decent passer for a young big.  his free throws are decent.

but its baby steps.  and he still cant shoot a midrange jumper.  if he ever got that, he'd be a #2 scorer for the team....but then he wouldnt be the version of duren who actually exists.  😞

i like duren and think he's going to continue to get better, but i dont want to see andre drummond 2.0 where the team is saddled to an incomplete big man on a huge deal.

ausar not developing any type of offense other than dunking, ivey getting hurt, and holland just being terrible at everything but hustling has really capped this team's ceiling.  those are three top 5 picks and none of them are going to be legit #2 scoring options for cade.

1 hour ago, Deleterious said:

Kawhi and Sengun should have made it over Chet and Lebron in the west.  Bam, BI, MPJ all should have made it over Duren and KAT.  One of them will get in for Giannis, but still.  

 

kat, lol.

the knicks are dying to get off that contract now.  they fired the one guy who could make him go to the basket and not pout all game long.

31 minutes ago, lordstanley said:

Faulk and Thomas for Augustine, Bear, this year's 1st and next year's 1st. 

yzerman would do that in a heartbeat.  i doubt st louis would, but please god let it be so.

4 hours ago, NYLion said:

Are you a fan of bringing in MPJ? Do you have any concerns about his lack of defense and inflated stats on a bad team?

Personally, I'm for it as long as the price isn't too crazy. His shooting and overall scoring would be a seamless fit on this team and I think this is one of the few teams that can hide his defensive deficiencies.

Trey Murphy would be my #1 target. I'd trade four 1sts+ for him without hesitation but I doubt he's available mainly because he has such a nice team friendly contract for 3 years after this one.

Del was a trey murphy fanboy like 2 years ago.

we dont know what's going on behind the scenes and what trajan ia working on.  hopefully its some shooting.

6 hours ago, Deleterious said:

What are you paying him?

Less.

j/k.  looks like they'll just match whatever the market offers him, which could be dangerous.

48 minutes ago, Deleterious said:

Duren isn't even a top 20 player in the East, let alone top 12.

as long as they dont pay him like one.

so many shooters being traded to teams not named detroit.

1 hour ago, Hongbit said:

What if they want Edvinssson?

should they include seider?

8 minutes ago, Hongbit said:

I defer to you when it comes to the complexities of NBA economics.  

I guess I’m confused why Toby appears to be included in most of these proposed deals that are out there.   The organization have a semi-irrational love for what he means to the team outside the lines.   I don’t see them trading him in their current top position for risk of screwing up team chemistry.   
 

I’d do Caris, Ivey and picks for TM3 all day.  Hopefully,  JB doesn’t have an equal voice in room because there’s no way he’s parting with his favorite player of all time.  

harris' contract is big enough, but not TOO big, that makes it easy to include.  and its expiring, so you have to move it now if you want to move it and a team may want it because its expiring.

i dont think new orleans is trading trey murphy.  i think they would give you zion, but not murphy.  at this point, i might even take zion.  they desperately need another scorer and if its one thing zion is good at (othet than eating and banging porn stars) its scoring.

12 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

We're headed into a full on collapse now. After the last 4 games I expect this to be as bad as the collapse after the Four Nations tournament from a year ago. Your can add a fifth game because they ain't beating Colorado tomorrow. I'm almost don't expect the playoffs anymore. Not quite, but almost. 

This team has a lack of top and talent and now, apparently, a lack of real depth too. We lose one guy in our lineup or a goalie has a down stretch of games and we're cooked. I don't think one move at the deadline fixes the issue, unless we're talking about bringing in a top talent like a Quinn Hughes.

The trade deadline is March 3rd and the NHL resumes from the Olympics on February 18th. If this collapse continues for a week or week and a half after the break, I expect Yzerman to hold onto his young players and draft capital and continue building his plan out. If we see the collapse continue and he makes a move, that to me shows there may be some pressure from above with Chris to get this turnaround going. I doubt that though, because Chris cares about money more than winning. Unless he's in save my job from getting fired mode and feels forced to make a movie, I don't think it's necessarily true that he's making a move.

the wongs are probably due for regression, and NO ONE IN THE EAST EVER LOSES so they may drop in the standings; however, you do this every time the wings lose a couple games in a row.  you say illitch doesnt care, yzerman is dumb, and we'll never win. 

then they win 3 in a row and you apologize.  until the next time...  🙂

20 hours ago, 1984Echoes said:

PS: I know this was shot down as unrealistic... but at least it's the logic of what I just mentioned up above... How do we get a heavier/ harder to play against/ offensively skilled and dangerous/ able to withstand the tougher playoff level hitting/ games... 2nd line? 

 

PPS: I heard the Blues were listening to offers on Thomas. That's why I asked the question.... and yes, I know it would be crazy expensive in terms of prospects and picks... but I'm still searching for the answers so...

 

 

 

if they can get thomas, they should do everything to get him.  

i dont know how you can be in the broadcast business for 40 years and never learn how not to say "um" in every sentence.  that's my woods critique.

2 hours ago, Deleterious said:

Uh huh, sure.

 

some idiot will believe it.

one injury to a key player and the whole team falls apart.

ivey not developing is really hurting them.

go get mpj.  the nets want to lose games and everyone else is keeping their powder dry for the giannis sweepstakes.

28 minutes ago, buddha said:

he cannot shoot.  not one bit.  unless its a dunk, he cant make it.  its pathetic for someone so athletic.

now he's missing dunks too.