buddha

ausar's been the best player on the floor.

duren doing what duren does: rim running.

The lions went cheap on scouting budget this year.  only had to pay to send guys to ann arbor.

10 minutes ago, RedRamage said:

If they take a safety this round @buddha gonna have a field day with all of us! 🙂

 

linebacker!

lol.

given that the lions traded up in round 2, getting rid of a 4th rounder to do so, and then chose not to trade up into round 3, i wonder if that means they dont think too highly of this draft class?  or that there's little difference left between levels of prospects? 

we'll see if they trade future capital today to get someone.

on the red wings' prospects' penchants for sophomore slumps: its much more prevalent here than elsewhere in the league:

"Now, this is peculiar. The median data fails to capture the Sophomore slump, implying that while this phenomenon seems fairly common among Red Wings’ young stars, it is not so for the leagues’ sophomores as a whole. This implies that there are environmental factors at play potentially more important than other teams finally having detailed pro-scouting or the mental weight of newfound expectations. For example, in the case of Moritz Seider, as soon as he demonstrated what he was capable of in his rookie campaign he was thrown off the deep end in the following season, logging some of the hardest minutes in the NHL at the young age of 21. This, of course, could potentially help to explain Kasper’s season - he was written in as the second line center at the beginning of the campaign, a position he clearly wasn’t ready for full time (despite rather positive underlying numbers for the first month). The subsequent loss of confidence and line juggling that he dealt with throughout the 2025-2026 season cannot have helped."

https://open.substack.com/pub/mystaes/p/drafting-and-development-in-the-modern?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=7ecc7

great read on the red wings' prospects woes.  doesnt leave yzerman blameless, but does note late-kenny's extreme failings.

"At last we come to it. The root of the Red Wings’ drafting and development hell. The reason that for seemingly a decade Red Wings fans have pointed to their prospects as a sign that things would turn around, only to be left disappointed. 2013 was a banner year for Detroit, where they found several impactful players that many will be familiar: Anthony Mantha, Tyler Bertuzzi, and Matthias-Janmark (even if he was traded before ever playing for the wings). What followed, however, was a half-decade of drafting darkness from which the Red Wings have still not emerged. It is my hope, not only to convey the scale of this disaster, but that others will use it as a precautionary tale: if you are about to enter a rebuild, you need to have your scouting and development system in order. Just as the Red Wings were beginning to falter at the NHL level, they entered a period of five years where the only notable NHL players that they managed to draft and develop were Dylan Larkin, and Filip Hronek - impactful and useful NHL players to be sure, but not enough to mitigate the missed opportunities elsewhere. During this 2014-2018 period, the Red Wings would under-perform the value expected of draft picks by a cumulative 5 average WAR per season. The 2017 and 2018 draft classes - in which the Wings walked away with Michael Rasmussen, Filip Zadina, and Joe Veleno - are particularly painful for Detroit Red Wings fans."

Michigan didnt play moore a lot because of their stupid rotations last year.  he might develop into a better pass rusher.

but the lions seem to want that pocket crusher, edge setter, run stuffer DE.  which is why i thought they would want zion young, but moore could probably be that guy too.

hate to give up the 4th, but if its a guy they really wanted...ah well.

does brad trade next year's 3rd for a 4th this year?

1 minute ago, Jason_R said:

It strikes me that Walter's mind probably works a lot like his website. Lots of annoying popups that keep getting in the way of conveying a useful thought. 

that and the constant maga stuff.  charlie is still a decent read.

23 minutes ago, Jason_R said:

And CBS Sports gives Detroit an A- for Moore but Baltimore gets a C+ for Zion Young who "is more of a run-stopper than a pass rusher." And Zierlein says Young "has the power to bull rush or drive through edges, but lacks instincts and variety in his rush approach. His NFL pressure production will lag behind without better go-to moves and counters. Young’s physical tools and rugged demeanor give him a chance to be an instant run-stopping upgrade with average rush." But Moore "is a bull-rush aficionado, piling up pressures and sacks. He’s strong through the top of the rush but needs to prove he can consistently stress long, well-anchored tackles. When it’s time to finish, he tackles with reliable technique and timing. If Moore cranks up the fire on all three downs, he can become a good full-time player. Either way, he projects as a starter capable of racking up pressures." Doesn't seem like a stretch that Brad and Dan would like Moore as a player. 

i dont trust any draft experts.  the one i trust the LEAST is probably walterfootball.

From MC's favorite site, lol.

Detroit Lions Detroit Lions: Derrick Moore, DE, Michigan – MILLEN DON’T FORGET YOUR KIELBASA FOR KIELBASA DAY Grade

Yuck. I thought the Lions were going to trade up for Zion Young or Gabe Jacas. All of these talented edge rushers seemed like the Lions were going to fall to the Lions at No. 50. Yet, they moved up six spots for … Derrick Moore? The Michigan edge rusher was productive in school, but he’s undersized, so I definitely ranked him behind the other edge rushers. Horrible!

5 hours ago, NYLion said:

How do you know that they would have been there at their original pick? Because of scouting grades? 

It always drives me nuts when fans say this as if a smart GM like Holmes doesn't have an inkling or some intel that his guy might get taken earlier.

i dont know.  im just venting.

that being said, he's done this multiple times in the past that had people scratching their heads and its those times that he's missed the most frequently.

otoh, those trades were for obscure players who werent on anyone's radars.  Moore was a knwon quantity and is generally considered - like miller as you point out - high floor, low ceiling players.  the exact opposite of broderick martin and giovanni manu.

Stop throwing away draft picks to trade up for guys who will be there when you pick!

signed, broderick martin, giovanni manu, and issac teslaa.

20 minutes ago, Deleterious said:

Going to OT.   Houston really pissed that away at the end.  I think they were up 5 with about 30 seconds left.  

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2 hours ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

Brad moved up for this guy with multiple DEs/Edge players still on the board, so clearly he thought very highly of Moore and had him graded out higher than fans and the media did. He perhaps graded up to get his BPA.

right.  who just HAPPENED TO BE a defensive end.  their biggest need.

i think moore was held back by michigan's stupid defensive philosophy.

6 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

 

bing-****ing-go.

all of you "brad drafts for bpa" people need to admit you are wrong.

moore before zion or gabe jacas.

dont get it.

i do not get it.

but i like derrick moore so whoo hoo!  go blue!

Just now, Mr.TaterSalad said:

I think they pick Jacas.

its not.

Do not like trading up for derrick moore.  no me gusta.

4 hours ago, Shinzaki said:

So it's not really a meaningful data point...

do you think duren is better than cade and/or ausar?

2 hours ago, Deleterious said:

Are the hit pieces on Kerr already starting? Mark Spears was on a podcast and said the Warriors grew tired of Kerr's political comments. 

that just shows that the warriors are human.

were all tired of kerr's political comments.

i hope duren turns it around and dominates this game.

4 hours ago, Shinzaki said:

Pistons lost 60+ games with Cade...is he not elite?

cade wasnt elite then.

he is now.

duren wasnt elite then either and he isnt now.