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37 minutes ago, Deleterious said:

So Saric was a separate deal and they used part of their TPE.  Just to cut him.  OK

 

 

they must be looking to make another deal.  

as much as ivey may be shooting well this year, huerter is a better pure shooter historically.

i know the pistons need shooting but this cant be the best they could do?  it looks like most of us who placed any real value on ivey were wrong, maybe were placing too much value on holland and ausar too?  especially holland.

help us troy weaver and joe dumars, youre our only hope of fleecing someone this year.

51 minutes ago, slothfacekilla said:

My hypothetical was a complete joke, I figured Rasmussen's inclusion would make it too obvious!

I'd rather keep Danielson over Kasper but I'm sure the Blues would feel the opposite.  I'd give up a lot for Thomas though, 26 years old with 5 more years on his deal after this season.

i know it was a joke.  😉

i do think the wings have enough to at least make st louis think about it.  i dont think yzerman would give up that much.

17 minutes ago, Hongbit said:

Never ever said that.  Edvinsson is really good now and going to be great.  I think Stevie made a mistake valuing him over Hughes who is a generational defenseman (and much, much better defender than you give him credit).

i think youre underestimating three things:

edvinsson's ceiling, hughes' free agent status in a year, and hughes' desire to play with his brothers, all of whom play in new jersey.

dont we have a trade exception too?

9 minutes ago, Deleterious said:

Hmmm.  We don't have the roster space to make this happen, so someone is getting cut.  Then I imagine Saric gets cut after that to make room for Jenkins.  

Not exactly sure how this works cap wise either.  Ivey is about $10 million while Huerter is $17 million plus Saric at $5 million.  We don't have cap space to do that.  

must be another move coming.

soooo....do we get harden now?  lol.

15 minutes ago, slothfacekilla said:

 

Marco Kasper + Rasmussen + first round pick 😂

Danielson, MBN and two first round picks, top 10 protected.  st louis loves size (danielson) physicality (mbn) and a couple first rounders.

8 minutes ago, Deleterious said:

It was just a pick swap, so no extra pick for Detroit.

detroit's pick is likely to be a bit lower than minnys, if that's anything.

on the topic of edvinsson, i think he is going to be as good or better than seider.  he's taller and more mobile.  i see those two developing into the best pair in the nhl.

hughes is a special offensive talent, i get it.  but i think edvinsson is going to be a special DEFENSEman.

Just now, Deleterious said:

It was just a pick swap, so no extra pick for Detroit.

even worse then.

heurter is "just a shooter" even more than robinson is.  he's been awful with the bulls.  this is a total dump of ivey.

ivey had zero value and this is the best you could get for him.  also tells me they had no desire to keep him for next year and wanted that salary hold off the books.

13 minutes ago, Deleterious said:

LeVert is listed as available on tonight's injury report.

oh boy.

ummm....THAT'S THE BEST YOU COULD GET FOR JADEN IVEY?

shows what the league thinks of ivey.

pistons get shooting and another pick to trade.  bulls get a rehab project on a guy who was once a promising player.

THOU SHALT NOT SAY ANYTHING BAD ABOUT QUINN HUGHES BECAUSE STEVE YZERMAN MADE A MISTAKE BECAUSE SIMON EDVINSSON SUCKS.

- hongbit....probably.

2 hours ago, Deleterious said:

Windhorst said Minnesota is actively recruiting 3rd and 4th teams to bring into a Giannis deal.

do we get bobby portis out of it for 4 second rounders?

27 minutes ago, Shinzaki said:

ASP looked good last night..as did Ras and Elmer.  Played with a lot of jam..Avs had a very difficult time in the neutral zone

If I could get two guys off  bad teams it would be Kevin Bahl from Calgary and Thomas from the Blues.

Although Gavrikov and Panarin from the Rangers would be cool too

there is a lot of smoke with them and panarin.  not sure how the lines would work with that.  and he's another small forward on a team whose best players are all small forwards.

how many basketballs does cleveland think they get in the game?  mitchell and harden on the same team?

they really needed that.

michigan-msu getting a little salty.  from izzo's usual pout fest and baby attitude when he doesnt win to dusty calling fears out for dirty play.

spicy.

Just now, 1984Echoes said:

Why do I deserve this?

are you troy weaver?  if not, its not directed at you.

1 minute ago, 1984Echoes said:

That's why I said "we're short".

Thanks Troy Weaver.

2 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said:

This article is on ESPN and concerns the Luka-AD trade...

The Luka trade: Four questions on the one-year anniversary - ESPN

 

However, there's a blurb that is perfect for the Pistons (notice how if we replaced "Doncic" with "Cade Cunningham"... that it works out exactly the same for what is needed on the Pistons to maximize Cade... We're still short a couple 3&D wings and a stretch-PF or stretch-5; and we're missing that one guy who can secondary ball-handle/shot-create to support Cade...) :

 

On the other side of the deal, the Lakers continue to be a work in progress. The irony of the Doncic trade is that over the couple of years preceding it, Dallas had done an excellent job surrounding him with exactly the sort of talent required to maximize his skills: a pair of rim-running, shot-blocking centers; 3-and-D guards and forwards to play defense and hit 3s around him; and another high-level shot creator to take pressure off him when he's on the court while running the team when he's not.

 

 

were ron holland and ausar thompson supposed to be "3 and d" guys?

cause theyre not.

one more thing on the bulls - because bulls suffering is the best kind of schadenfreude this side of buckeye schadenfreude - the heat were so pissed they blew a game to the bulls on saturday that they beat them by 43 points tonight, leading by as many as 54.  the bulls shot 15% from 3.  former #4 pick in the draft patrick williams was 0-7, which is only remarkable because he actually cared enough to shoot 7 times, and potential piston coby white went 0-6.  one of his off nights, of which there are many, usually against teams that care to try on defense (make note for any future playoff game appearances).

my favorite bulls management moment was when they insisted they needed to get younger and more athletic to build around jimmy butler, so they signed dwyane wade, rajon rondo, and drafted denzel valentine.

the jokes just write themselves.

if you thought troy weaver sucked at his job, check out what its like to be a bulls fan:

31 minutes ago, Deleterious said:

Hmmm.  Not real sure what they even have to offer.

 

they have all their picks and...josh giddey?  coby white's busted hamstrings?  ayo dosunmu's hustle and broke shot?  dalen terry?  noa essengeh?  

does buzelis, three first rounders, and two pick swaps (does milwaukee have picks to swap?) get it done?  

30 minutes ago, Deleterious said:

He just needs to suck it up and find his way to Sacramento.  Go score 30 a night, play no defense and win nothing.  

it would be the best for everyone.  it worked out for chris webber...