buddha

2 hours ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

Again, they draft for need when it aligns with BPA. They traded up to get Terrion Arnold, so clearly they saw him as both filling a need and getting the BPA on their board. Last year was the closest I think they've come in the first round to leaning more towards the need category. If it were a 1-10 scale, with 1 being closer to drafting for needs and 10 being closer to drafting for BPA, I'd say Brad is typically at a 7 or 8 on that scale.

they dont draft for need except those times that the bpa lined up with needs....how ridiculous does that sound?  it just HAPPENED to line up with need the last two years.  oh ok.  

38 minutes ago, Deleterious said:

I'd be disappointed. You have to be willing to adjust your expectations as the season progresses, and more importantly, you have to take advantage of your opportunities when they're right in front of you. Just ask the people over at Ford Field about that.

i agree.

that's why i hated the deadline.  they did nothing when they have their best shot at the finals in 15 years.  assuming that "because the core is young" means they will be this good every year is fool's gold.  theyre about to be capped out but refused to make their move for a robin to cade's batman, all because duren "catches lobs real good."

as you point out, the lions were built to win for 5 years, dont worry about losing that nfc championship game, theyre so young!  and then the next year the entire defense is injured, and two years later you finish last in the division.

progress isnt always linear.  teams dont always get better.  the league only bails out the spurs and idiots only hand star players to the lakers, not detroit.

i get that ivey was an albatross and not an asset, but was heurter really the BEST you could do?  you couldnt have thrown a couple seconds in with ivey to get dosunmu?  or even coby white?  as flawed as they are  they would be more productive than heurter.

anyway, rant over.  trajan really missed, imo.  i hope it doesnt cost them this year.

and as far as matching up against the knicks, i wouldnt assume they could beat miami or charlotte right now.  they should, but that assumes ausar is healthy.

39 minutes ago, MichiganCardinal said:

Planning in March to draft a player in April who you intend to start 100% of your snaps in September is a recipe for disaster. And it goes against what this team normally does in free agency.

If Mauigoa, Fano, and Proctor are gone, what do you do? Take Freeling, a one-year starter in the SEC, and hope he’s athletic enough to get up to speed?

yes

1 hour ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

They're going to draft the best player available on their board that they give a first round grade too. If they don't believe that a tackle has a first round grade and another player, at a different position, has a first round grade and is their BPA, they are taking that player. They don't draft for need generally and lean towards BPA. Last year's draft is the closest been to drafting for need.

They draft for need all the time.  they talk **** about bpa and turn around and draft corner and dt, both were positions of need.

they will draft a left tackle unless they sign another free agent.  and then they still might.  if they do, its bye bye manu.

5 hours ago, Deleterious said:

Minnesota picking #26 right now.  Pistons 28th.

its going to be really funny when we pick before the twolves. 

so if the pistons flop at the finish and end up 4th in the east, will we all still be mad even though that's where we thought they'd be before the season started, and they did nothing at the deadline?

i will never not be salty that trajan sat on his ass and did nothing to really help the team.  although now that tatum is back they probably werent going to win it anyway.

59 minutes ago, MichiganCardinal said:

This is frustrating. I would have given him more than this. He’s a really good OT and it’s a bad, bad idea if they are planning to go into the draft without a second starting offensive tackle (unless they really think Borom should start).

Rasheed Walker is still out there but likely outside the Lions’ budget. Same for Trent Williams if the Niners move on. Trent Brown is available, but is effectively Decker 2.0 between age and injury concerns. Cam Robinson is no better than Borom. Blah.

 

Its a great tackle class and the lions are going to draft one in the first round.

43 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

I'll give it time, but right now, on the whole, this roster doesn't feel better or upgraded. Let's see what happens over the next few weeks. 

still early, but definitely an overall talent downgrade so far.

you dont build a team on free agents.

the best thing the raiders did this offseason was deal crosby for two first round picks.  that should be the foundation of your team moving forward.

23 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

I mean, I would still take Stafford over Herbert. I also think most Lions fans wanted Tua. Wasn't it tank for Tua?

i'd take either of them over jeff okudah.

That's just as bad as certain posters who shall remain nameless who wanted jeff okudah over justin herbert because the lions had a qb.

i guess that's why i'm not an nfl gm....

remember when certain posters who ruin every game thread was adamant that the lions screwed the franchise by drafting sewell over justin fields?

🤔

wait until all the ridiculous contracts are signed and then get some bargains.  

sign youth, not aged nfl vets.  i'd be fine letting decker and reader both walk.  too old.  anzalone was right on the cusp of decline.  he'll be fine this year and likely injured/bad after that.  its the way of the nfl.  a hard sport with short shelf lives.

2 hours ago, Motor City Sonics said:

Falcons sign Tua.   Did they do it mostly because he's left-handed?      1.3 million is a good deal for someone who could still show something or could end his career with one hit.   

 

But some of these contracts are crazy.   I know we all wanted Mandelbaum Manbdelbaum Mandelbaum but the Raiders lost they damm minds with that deal.       Lions get serviceable and affordable O-Linemen.    Solid, but not great players.   There's always the draft. 

they did it because theyre the falcons.  theyre a bad organization.  signing a guy who is one tap on the head from being out of the league, and who isnt that good even when/if he's healthy.

9 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said:

I'd like to grab Justin Fields on a Tua contract...

Maybe even for 2 or 3 years...

Low salary but a large bonus for every start he makes... understanding that Goff is the #1 and he might not get any starts... 

But I think our staff could "rehabilitate" him... and he could "show" in preseason and/or any injury games he had to cover for Goff.

We either have a pretty good backup... or another team decides to take a second chance with him and makes us an offer... A mid-round pick still has value to Brad Holmes...

Just thinking out loud...

we have a qb whose strength is smarts, timing and accuracy, why the hell would we sign someone who is dumb, slow, and inaccurate?  because he runs a 4.3 40?

fields will be too expensive for the lions.  they usually do a cheap alternative at backup qb.

but ya never know.

you get a point!  you get a point!  everyone gets a point!

1 hour ago, MichiganCardinal said:

If the Niners have to trade Trent Williams, I wonder what he will fetch, knowing the recipient has to pay him.

6th or 7th round pick.

1 hour ago, lordstanley said:

Sens are 8 points behind the Tigers with 2 games in hand.

 

 

well, its just pre-season.  the tigers shouldnt be too concerned...

25 minutes ago, slothfacekilla said:

I think with the game last night MBN's contract can no longer slide so hopefully he's up from the AHL permanently 

he's been good so far.  keep him here.

4 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said:

I think this allows them the flexibility to use a later round pick (4th/ 5th/ 6th...)

On any interior lineman, for depth and competition, that they like...

Without it being position specific. Center. Guard. A guy flexible enough to be play all along the line... 

Whomever they like best as a draftee... without being boxed in by any kind of need...

Even though I know Holmes drafts for the player that he likes... not for need...

I still like the additional flexibility.

or we could package our 4th, 5th, and next year's 3rd and 4th to move up in round 3 to take that fullback from middle tennessee state a&m...

44 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

I guess maybe because the season is over, but he wasn't half as PO'd tonight as he was after losing to M in the 1st game.

im not little brother?

michigan had "100s" of free throws?

complaining about may starting in on fears being a dirty player while nobody looks at what michigan players do or say?

tom was at his best this week and especially after the game.  you know who acts like a little baby bitch after losing?

A little brother.

petty tom izzo is the best tom izzo.

if minnesota finishes with a better record than detroit, what happens to that pick swap?

fears with yet another kick in the groin.  i'm sure izzo looked at him really tough.

were cursed.

were also just not good enough.  everyone else in the division seems to never lose.