buddha

5 minutes ago, Shinzaki said:

He's essentially playing on one leg right now...  Raymond..OTOH..may have an undisclosed injury.  Heard Stoney on 97.1 Saturday morning.  He said Raymond may be working through a pec tear.  He also said they offered Danielson in trades at the deadline but the interest was weak

them being injured makes more sense.  but then that is a problem because its two years in a row they've both been hurt at the end of the year.  bad luck?  or too small?

who would stoney have gotten that info from?  yzerman is notoriously tight lipped.  if its true, it tells you everyone else sees him as a 3C just like a lot of draft experts did when he came out.

34 minutes ago, Deleterious said:

When is the last time the Bulls or Knicks signed a big time free agent?

Two of the best cities in America and I couldn't tell you the last time either one signed a max money type free agent.  

derozan was a sign and trade but that's kind of a free agent signing.

ben wallace?  

carlos boozer?

1 minute ago, Deleterious said:

The Chicago news that really punched Buddha in the gut.  Angel Reese was traded.  

the subaru driving population in chicago will be devastated.

1 hour ago, Deleterious said:

All this time I just thought the rumors were because his daughter goes there.  Big downgrade for him, kind of odd.  

 

lol.  the university that brought you the bill belichick disaster decide to hire another pro guy to lead a college team.

not sure what's going at unc.

20 minutes ago, Deleterious said:

 

time to bump billy donovan upstairs.  that would be the easieat thing to do, so that's likely what the bulls will do.

bottom line is that having six picks in round 2 in 2019 and 2020 have netted you almost nothing.  that should be the foundation of depth for this squad or dealt to provide depth.  

the time for blaming kenny is running out.

he's been drafting all work ethic players since kasper.

kasper, mbn, bear, genborg.  they OVERDRAFT that "type" of player.

bringing in chairot was to get that type of player.  edvinsson and seider are huge and both are physical.  faulk is huge.

he has been trying to accumulate big physical players.  i'm not sure that's the ultimate problem.  extending ras seemed like a decent idea at the time because he was ao cheap and coming off the best two months of his career.  didnt work out.  copp males sense as line 2/3c.  compher makes no sense and never did.

at the end of the day, line one has to be better.  raymond, larkin, debrincat, and to a lesser extent kane are your offensive skill players and they have let the team down in march/april two years in a row (except debrincat).  and the fact that they need to rely on kane so much just tells you how desperate they are for high end offensive talent.

kasper, asp, and danielson were drafted to be those types of players and provide that offense and they havent done it yet.  raymond and larkin are paid to be those players and they havent done **** down the stretch.  look at those two for the reason the team cant score in a whorehouse with a thousand dollar bill tied to their faces.

23 minutes ago, Jason_R said:

 

Then he had Bear ranked over Danielson, MBN, and Finnie which had me wondering whether he is simply over-rating a prospect who has not yet shown himself in the NHL.

bingo

buff, in shape luka didnt last very long...

1 hour ago, Motor City Sonics said:

And by the way.   Why Talbot?    He's brutal.  He's been brutal all season.    What does Cossa have to do?          He was pathetic yesterday.   Yeah, I know the defense wasn't great, but at least 2 of those goals should never have happened. 

 

 

cossa's been crap in grand rapids.  be better.  that's what he has to do.

36 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said:

No, not yet.

This is still a valid thread until...

The Wings make it...

Invalid.

 

Is this already a team of invalids? Maybe...

Lord Stanley is putting in such hard work though...

I say let him finish the job!

i want a book of 84lives posts put into haiku form.

12 minutes ago, Jason_R said:

Way too many guys leave Detroit and look like different players. 

way too many executives leave yzerman and do well.  verbeek.  brisebois.  yzerman returns to detroit and is now working only with former red wings he played with and the results are not so good.

who's a bettee gm, bill guerin or steve yzerman?

someone should nuke this thread.

you all realize this is the year the wings will move up in lottery, right?

2 hours ago, Shinzaki said:

of late...Drafting in the 2nd rd and beyond seems to be yielding more potential results...Augustine, Plante, Genborg...Dylan James looks like a potentiial bottom six fwd.  Some other guys like Keenan, Soloman and Anton Johansson are generating some buzz.

 

none of those players has contributed one whit yet.  youre right, they might.

however, i will also remind everyone of the hype surrounding most wings nhl prospects....

...until they get to the AHL.  and a select few who actually get to the nhl.  for the most part, they havent done ****.  that includes asp, mbn, danielson, and kasper (other than for two months when he was playing with healthy larkin).

i hope theyre getting booed.

10 hours ago, MichiganCardinal said:

Michigan has looked unstoppable through five tournament games.

But they’ve been in this position before. Championship game against a pedigree program with a legendary coach. They’ve lost more than they’ve won.

1-6 in ncaa finals games.

if yaxel cant play, it might be a bridge too far.

but he didnt really play tonight and they slaughtered the 4th best team in the kenpom era...

28 minutes ago, lordstanley said:

Oliver Kapanen, the last pick of the 2nd round (#64) by the Habs in 2021 (#36 Shai Buium and #70 Carter Mazur's draft) scored the winner in the shootout tonight to get Montreal to 100 points on the season. He has 22G 15A 37Pts in 76 games, most goals by the rookie in the NHL this year. 

yeah, but does he try hard and play two way hockey as a 17 year old?  that's what's REALLY important.

2 hours ago, Jason_R said:

Don’t tell me he wouldn’t be an upgrade over at least four guys. 

i would love that to be true, but he was just here and didnt do squat.

2 hours ago, lordstanley said:

And even more specific, outside of top 6 overall picks in round one …

Apart from Finnie (and the departed Soderblom), the only pick to have really outperformed his draft position is Seider at #6. Raymond and Edvinsson are both good picks but not much better if at all than what you’d expect from #4 and #6 overall. I think ASP still has potential to outperform #17 overall. Apart from that, jury is out to say the least.  Cossa (#15, 2021j is being passed, not only by Wallstedt but Montreal’s duo of Dobes (5th round, 2020) and Fowler (3rd round, 2023) and Toronto’s Hildeby (4th round, 2022). 

7th rounders are just luck.

the second round misses are huge.  if, in fact, they end up being misses.  still time for a few of them.  but not much time.

how's brady cleveland doing?  kiiskanen?  neiderbach?

1 hour ago, Jason_R said:

Well, Holland didn't even hit much in the first round, but you are right that Yzerman had a lot of picks that have amounted to nothing. Undoubtedly scouting needs to be scrutinized but what are they doing or not doing to develop these players? 

i dont know, but soderblom didnt do jack here and now that he's in pittsburgh he's playing physical and scoring.  sooooo....

look, nothing will happen to steve yzerman until steve yzerman decides he's had enough.  and then he'll just move upstairs to some fancy role with no responsibility but plenty of salary.

but then what happens?  do they make draper the gm?  the guy who has done so amazingly well drafting?  horcoff?  lidstrom?  bring back shanahan?  heck, why not make fedorov the gm, he used to play here.

nothing will change until illitch decides to move on from the red wing old boy network, which is extremely doubtful.

everyone bags on late stage kenny holland, and its well deserved, but how about yzerman's drafts?  outside of round one, what have they got?  

nothing.  not one pick has made any difference and most have never seen an nhl arena without a ticket.

plenty of 2nd and 3rd round picks from 2019 and 2020 have made the nhl, here, only albert johannson as a bottom pair defenseman.

they had SIX second round picks in 2019 and 2020 and only johannson has made the nhl, 7 years later.

you can talk about kenny all you want, but those two draft classes should have AT LEAST provided more depth pieces than that.