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1 hour ago, chasfh said:

Pythagoras was obtuse.

He was always looking for an angle.

On 5/14/2023 at 4:40 PM, chasfh said:

With the win today against the M’s, the Tigers have now completed that tough 40-game stretch to start the season that we’ve been talking about basically since last October.

We finished this stretch 18-21, with one game postponed until July. That’s a lot better than the 12-28 I had thought would be the acceptable floor.

Not only did we beat that record pretty well, but we have looked very, very good at times while doing it.

I still like my 75-win prediction.

I think 75 wins might be very close to the final result. Will they reach .500 in May??

Just seems like yesterday.

Don't let your ball playing kid watch Baez run the bases. Unbelievable.

All of us knew this team was going to be bad. The only real question was when this season began was if they could win win 63 games. We all knew the first 40 games would be rough because the schedule was brutal.

Even knowing that, it is difficult to stomach this totally dead baseball we are seeing. I am going to opening day this week, and as of right now I am highly doubtful, that any of the first 15 games of the season will be remotely competitive.

I think this team is a 72 win team. I see them struggling to achieve a 12-28 in the first forty games. After the first forty, the schedule becomes a little easier over the long haul. The only thing that concerns me after game 1 is that the 2023 TORK! looks exactly like the 2022 TORK!

21 hours ago, casimir said:

Really?  How will the casual fan know which game Cabrera will be playing?

The casual fan will think that Miggy will be playing every day.

10 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said:

Or is it better to have a utility player that allows certain players to take a day off or be substituted for properly (including game injury); rather than forcing a starting player to play through an injury because instead of having a proper backup to cover for the guy... we have a Corpse Formerly Known as Miggy Cabrera on the roster?

Asking for a friend.

I don't think I could have said this better. On a competitive team, he should have been cut in 2017. He has been a AAAA player on his very best days for 6 years. For me, enough is enough. The casual fan will buy a ticket for the Miggy sideshow. That is why he is will be on the team.

On 3/3/2023 at 12:18 AM, Motor City Sonics said:

Should Spencer Torkelson automatically make the team for Opening Day?

No. He needs extended time in AAA. When he proves he can hit a MLB fastball down the middle of the plate is when he deserves further consideration.

I know he had a stronger collegiate career than Barry Bonds at ASU. He has yet to prove he can hit Major League pitching.

So far, so good.

14 minutes ago, Tenacious D said:

Anyone know where to listen online?  Was hoping SIRIUS would be carrying the game today.

https://onlineradiobox.com/us/wxytam/?cs=us.wxytam&played=1

I graduated with a Wertenberger in 1972.

On 2/18/2023 at 2:30 PM, Toddwert said:

I was born in Monroe and I have family and grew up in Dundee...🙂

Really? I grew up in Dundee as well, as did my father,my grandfather, and my great grandfather.My Great-Great grandfather and my Great-Great-Great grandfather along with their families settled there immediately after the Erie canal opened for business.

6 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said:

I'd like him relegated to the dugout as a "coach/ ambassador" and off the 40.

buddha suggested ambassadorship. I concur.

I think this is a marvelous idea. Make him assistant bench coach.

Kind of an interesting discussion on Baseball on TV. I did the whole cord cutting thing 3 years ago when I realized the only things I was regularly watching was baseball and some news programs with some vintage tv thrown in. 100% of the NFL I was watching was and is on standard broadcast tv. I got a modest priced digital TV antenna and got 66 channels on it when the weather is fair, about 40 when the weather is poor.

I have the Bally streaming package and watch the Red wings and Tigers on it. I think at 19.99 a month it is fairly priced. I have an excellent internet service, so the streaming service works fine for me.

6 minutes ago, Edman85 said:

Watch as lowering the fence somehow affects the batter's eye and exit velos in Comerica drop.

I suspect this will happen. I am happy to hear about the changes. I don't think this will be enough for most casual fans.

7 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said:

 

The whining about the dimensions won't stop until  dead center field is 250 feet. I don't like the small change as to have any chance of quieting the 22 years of continuous bitching, They should have came in by 15 feet.

This trade could be a win-win. These moves seem to be consistent with Harris' stated organizational principles.

14 hours ago, Motor City Sonics said:

Major League is on.   Maybe the 2023 Tigers are the 35 year remake of that and AJ Hinch can lead them to victory, as soon as he's done talking to that fella about a set of whitewalls.  

Don't we need a pitcher from the California Penal League?

I have been ill yet once again, but I have returned to the land of the living.

I took a moment to read this thread. Most of you are much more optimistic than I. As it stands today, I see a 60 win team. The only question is whether we will find anything this year to build upon above what we currently know.

Big things to learn in '23:

Can and will TORK! hit big league pitching? Personally, I think the odds are 58-42 against.

Will we find a competent 3B in the organization? I think 53-47 in favor of that proposition.

Will Baez be with the team on Labor Day? I think 65-35 against as Javy is not in the mold of the Harris mold.

Will Jake Rogers be on the active roster April 1? I think that is a coin flip.

I think that this is probably a 60 -63 win team so far this for 2023. But, when one is looking at a team that has so few at least average MLB position players on the 40 man, what can one expect? There are 3 position players that are at least average, the rest are all sub replacement level. Play the kids, Let's find out if 2 Meadows are better than one. Let's see if Wenceel Perez is ready for prime time. Let the parade begin.

22 hours ago, Tiger337 said:

My concern is not parity, but rather too many teams in the playoffs!  I think expanded playoffs ruin the entire essence of a baseball season which I view as a marathon. I am not overly concerned with parity.  I like that there are good teams and bad teams.  I like dynasties and like when dynasty teams get defeated.  If every team has the same chance, it makes the season seem random.  I know others don't necessarily share that view.  

There is no competitive sense to a 162 game season with expanded playoffs.

2 hours ago, RandyMarsh said:

With payrolls going up and seemingly going to continue to rise I don't think big market teams are as concerned about "regretting" deals 6 or 7 years down the road.

For instance by that time its very likely SF may have near a 300 million dollar payroll if they keep projecting upwards and even if Correa is an albatross by then he would still only represent like 10% of their payroll.

Having that percentage of dead weight isn't nearly as debilitating as say having 30 million on a 150 million like we were with Miggy. 

A number of the big market teams, such as the New York Yankees, have their own cable network they own/control. With the somewhat disappointing ratings for the World Series, MLB could be in danger of the revenue topping out while the revenue for New York and Los Angeles continuing to grow, creating a system where there is a dominant team say Ala The Harlem Globetrotters playing some twenty odd Washington Generals mutant teams instead of true competition. We are not there yet.

2 hours ago, mtutiger said:

It's not really about any of us *hoping* for anything, it's about having realistic expectations of what the team will do given the situation that it is in.

Did people really expect them to be in on the Carlos Correa sweepstakes? Or Aaron Judge? Outside of *maybe* Mitch Haniger, I'm not sure there's a single big name free agent that has ever been discussed or rumored as a possibility for the Tigers, and even he was probably only a possibility if he was interested in a 1 year "get right" deal. 

Al left this thing in disrepair... we all know it and we were all elated when he was fired. But the thing about the disrepair he left the organization in, as much as it all sucks and we're all tired of seeing them lose and want instant gratification, is it isn't gonna cure itself on it's own or be fixed overnight. Signing Carlos Correa alone isn't fixing it.

We probably  6 or 7 top line guys to compete for a divisional championship in the AL Central. To get a sure thing first string player today one is looking at an eight year commitment at 20 mil per season per player minimum. We would need a 140 million dollar per year increase in the payroll per year committed  per year for the next 8 years or an additional 1.2 billion dollar payroll commitment additional to cover the next 8 years. Or in other words, for 280 to 300 million a year, assuming no injuries and no screw-ups choosing your free agent signings, you get maybe 3 or 4 shots at the crap-shoot known as the World Series. That's probably where the free agent market is today.

3 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

Shop all the relief pitchers.  Relievers have a lot more value to a bad team in trades than they have on the field.  

This is true. I still think that Soto will be gone before the ASB. I of the opinion generally that there is enough assets in the organization to get marginal improvement yet this off season, and the reliever corp is where this can be done.