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Portland -  It seems like there is a BGH here and people have romanticized Portland as a baseball town, since baseball does have an appeal to more intellectual folks.   But has minor league baseball ever thrived in Portland?   Plus, the politics in Portland is a nightmare. 

Someone isn't up on their current events. The legislature just passed a bill for $800 million in bonds for the stadium

5 hours ago, chasfh said:

I can’t think of any reason the Tigers would not trade Cris Rodriguez for David Bednar, but I can think of at least a couple reasons the Pirates wouldn’t trade David Bednar for Cris Rodriguez. 

Cause it's a big overpay

5 hours ago, 1984Echoes said:

I am 99.999% certain Harris is not trading Cris Rodriguez for David Bednar.

Its Bowden, there is a reason he ain't a GM anymore

3 hours ago, LongLiveMaroth said:

They went pitching-heavy in the last draft, outside of Rainer. Right now unfortunately a lot of those picks are injured which I mean is the harsh possibility when drafting pitchers. 

you are allowed to do it two years in a row

35 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

Position side is as good as it's ever been, but is a pitching shortage looming around the corner? Hall isn't pitching and Hamm and Melton aren't particularly exciting. 

I imagine this draft will likely be pitching heavy. 

3 hours ago, monkeytargets39 said:

The return for Devers was pretty minimal, but SF is picking up all remaining salary, so it might allow Boston to add some higher priced guys either at the deadline or in the offseason.  

It's boston they never have a payroll problem and there is about one expensive player available this offseason

21 hours ago, Deleterious said:

The two finals teams only have 4 top 10 picks on their roster/rotations. Neither teams star is a top 10 pick. So you find plenty of talent in later rounds.

Plus, I've never seen any evidence less NBA picks make than other sports. Small rosters and longer careers skew opinions I think.

In th nba over the last 20 years about 27 percent of lottery players have made an all star team. Where 55 percent of NFL players taken in top 10 have made a pro bowl. Now obviously its not an apple to apples comparison but gives you an idea of the difference. 

And nobody is saying you cant find talent in the later round, in fact i specifically said in my first post 'of course there are exceptions' so it wasn't just dismissed like you did. But the data is clear in a system designed to spread out talent, a draft, that the NBA does a poor job as a whole of identifying a top tier talent and developing it and its why teams get stuck in that 6-12 range of the draft for years. Where as in somewhere like teh NFL a good draft and the ability to add through FA (something the NBA lacks) can make a turnaround quicker. In my opinion its the biggest problem the NBA has, that teams that are bad remain bad for a lot of years because the league is so bad especially in picks 5-12 of creating stars to make a franchise better and you end up with a bunch of Ivys and Asurs that everybody here would trade for a half-way decent player. 

Man I'm gonna laugh hard if Bregman walks. Red Sox persued him, got him for a year and blew up to team

42 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

It just seems bizarre to me that 300+ Div1 college basketball program don't produce 30 NBA quality players in a year.

It's the nba's biggest problem. Pick six lands you a back end rotation guy.

20 minutes ago, romad1 said:

Have they announced who is going to the 40 man for Jobe moving to the 60 day IL?

no rush to fill that spot just to fill it

1 hour ago, RedTeamGo! said:

I am going to ask these two on both the reds forum www.redszone.com and here and compare. I will report back. I think the Reds are somewhat keeping their heads above water right now but by the deadline will be solidly out of it. The offense just isn't good enough. The Reds really need OF help, and the Tigers seem to really be lacking in OF prospects (I am not including Clark because I am assuming he is untouchable), so probably not a good fit. Please feel free to reply back with what you think would be a good return as well. 

Emilio Pagan for INF Hao Yu-Lee

Emilio Pagan for RHP Troy Melton and Justice Bigbie

Before you scoff at Pagan, he has been really solid this year - .87 WHIP and I think he is the perfect reliever for Comerica Park's dimensions. 

TJ Friedl for one of McGonigle, Ranier, or Briceno

I would prefer the Reds extend Friedl, but I wasn't born yesterday, so I know that is not happening. 

What say you?

Thery arent giving up a top prospect for another left handed hitting corner outfielder 

Well at least it's not skubal

23 hours ago, chasfh said:

Because it's a bad look that could potentially cost them ticket buyers in the future. As a marketer, I can attest that they have a concern about it.

Why would a future ticket buyer care what someone did with the seat today?

And the number one thing in ticket sales has been and always will be winning. Not promotions, not energy in a stadium not wether it looks open or not. It's all about wining. 

14 hours ago, chasfh said:

I agree with Oblong in that as a fan, I don’t give a s***. I’m watching to watch the game. I also believe teams shoot themselves in the foot some when they parade empty seats in front of cameras for literally half the time a game is on. That’s a real problem for them, and I think it’s interesting to contemplate.

Expect they were alreayd bought. Why does the team care if anyone shows up or not. They got the money. 

7 hours ago, Edman85 said:

There are some weird rules around titles. I don’t believe he can be poached without a title upgrade unless his contract is up.

Who is president. Not sure what someone can promote him to. Super president?

4 hours ago, oblong said:

I’m so tired of seeing people complaint about that. Ryan Ermani had been a leader of that.  Every stadium with those premium seats has this “problem”.  I watch the players.  Not the audience.  It’s such a non issue.  The seats are sold. People are getting what they paid for. It hurts no one if they aren’t sitting there.  Get off social media Karen. 

This. Yankees have it except for playoffs. It's a zero issue and this article is just someone who isn't up to date.

5 hours ago, IdahoBert said:

I should maybe look into it but my hometown pay per which is a McClatchy paper charges $30 a month. That’s what it will be. It’s not worth it to me. 

It is not..and that's from someone who knows who runs it

6 minutes ago, holygoat said:

The fact that Bichette has not received an extension and is playing on the final year of his contract leads me to believe that the Jays have no intentions of signing him to a new deal. So unless they're solidly in the WC -- not on the bubble or within striking distance -- they'd be wise to get something for him rather than nothing. They probably won't get a Top 100 guy for him -- I wouldn't give that up for a few months rental -- but if someone else is willing to offer that, they can have him. If I'm Harris, though, I'm at least making the call to find out.

Remember it takes two to make a deal. He might not want to resign, it might not just be the blue Jay's who dont want him back. Also they were almost for sure get something for him as he'll get a qo in a bad free agent group. So they get that pick which might be better than some non top 100 fringe guys

9 minutes ago, chasfh said:

My driveway is totally dry. 

Tmi?

1 hour ago, gehringer_2 said:

But I never like trading to get older in the first place. The way the CBA works, older players are financial death to any but the richest franchises (which we aren't) so I don't really see moving prospects on any scale as a viable long term option for the Tigers, unless you want another Dombrowski boom/bust cycle. Personally, I'm too old to be interested in another 10 years of bad baseball!  You will start losing you own players fast enough that what you think is a surplus coming up today, won't be when the time comes.

But that was after 10 years of very good baseball. Compare to the royals lets say who kept their guys and were bad after two.

On 5/31/2025 at 10:08 AM, CMRivdogs said:

The question is will the Nats do anything while they’re still affordable 

The owner is worth $7 billion. I think they're affordable for a while

14 hours ago, Arlington said:

I'd prefer to see prospects make established players expendable.  Once you start winning you can't draw as much talent from the draft or the international market.  

That's not how it works. And the vast majority of prospect end up being not very good big leaguers. To count on them over a an established player send you quicker to the cellar. Its part of the natural cylce, get good, add more experienced guys. Ride the wave, hopefully win something, then get bad and add more. Almost no team in the history of the game has won for an extended stretch with just their own guys. 

On 5/30/2025 at 12:27 PM, SoCalTiger said:

Seems like lots of talent in the minor leagues. Next years rule 5 is going to be a headache for Harris. It could force some trades of the 15 or below minor leaguers and guys like Badoo, Rogers, Perez , manning, Lange, Brebbia, Owens , Mattison, Compos,Hinklen, Malloy and even Jung. 

We could be buyers and sellers at the deadline.

Fans overrated their own players. Some of this works itself out. A guy like Badooo a 4 a type player? eveyr team has two nobody is going to be rushing to take our version. And rule 5 guys, there is a reason why few hit and most come back, they weren't worth protectnig to start with. 

4 hours ago, buddha said:

the lions will get plenty of good games in good time slots.

but they havent announced anything yet.  they just announce cowboys and chiefs games, and give international games to teams no one cares about.

seems stupid to me.

an international game is not a reward

22 minutes ago, oblong said:

philisophically the problem is you have one side (The players) with a single goal.  The other side is made up of factions with different goals.    Is the fact that the owners can't get their collective **** together a problem for the players to solve?

 

While the players might have a single concept, make money. I would hardly classify it as a unified goal. Heck they had a mutiny last year because they couldnt get on the same page abotu who should be the focus of money-making growth. Young players? vets? top teir free agents? Middle tier?. There is also questions on if they can agree on what they want/prioritize when talking to owners as well.