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We gave up a fourth. 98 percent of fourth round picks amount to zippo. I wouldn’t be worried about losing that

And collapsed

You know how I know you've never seen David Wells?

Would be Detroit sports without a collapse

Be nice if they would miss one or two

was more just pointing out teh silliness of the response to your statement.

Its really beneficial to both sides. For teams they get these superstars on cheap deals. Sure a few end up in clunkers but the money now a days is silly so even if you have to eat 60 million in five years its not a death knell. For players, it might delay free agency by a year or two. But your still getting there around 30 and you get insane amount of guarenteed moeny and are set for life.

Ok, thanks. But do you think if he came and said I'll sign for 300 million the Tigers be like 'sorry we dont have an offer, come back some other day?"

Teams have a remedy though to end contracts early - and teams frequently refuse to pay players under the contract. It's called a cut. What's the players' remedy?

Ok, Guess scott felt differently. Those guys at the bottom of a roster a dime a dozen. Smith was just victim of adding good guys at the top and needing to protect others. Smith hadn't shown much so we wasn't gonna bring anything useful back, especially being DFA'ed

It was unlikely to ever be much. Limited history as a relief, got squeezed off 40 man, so no team was going to give up anything for him. Those guys are out there. Some find a career as reliever, most don't.

Dont think losing a journeyman with a 7 era will be that hard to swallow

I just am trying to get to the mindset that 'you gotta establish the run' is driving this thinking. Its very 20 years ago. Its hard to be good at everything so you have to pick and choose. But i dont think a guy being good against the run is more impactful than a pass rush specialist. Both offer pros and cons. You just have to pick which one you are gonna do, but that doesn't make you more impactful

Ok on the same hand teams only run a handful times a game, especially on a players side or not. Why does stopping the run create mroe impact?

Why? All but one team threw more than they ran

As someone who has followed his career since about HS Freshman year. Not sure he, but dont want to rule it out, he fits the Lions mold. Is a nut case who doesn't work hard, has a mom dictating his life and kinda aloof

Silly to let the past failure of a third round pick (when 85 percent are failures) dictate your future

The problem is they pick 17 not 3. Can’t guarantee they get a decent one in the draft and even if you do they still need a vet for either the no 2 or 3 on depth chart. The haven’t done either and another option went off the board. Muhammad has his problem but so does everyone whether it be age, health or production. At least we knew what Muhammad could do. right now we have a big ole gaping whole and the position where Brad hasn’t added anyone, really, in years. That’s the frustration

He made nothing. If they wanted to roster him no reason to risk losing him today when you can just cut him in August. He is just a guy who has missed games every year, had 5 sacks total in three years. I think they cut him cause he couldn’t be counted on and time to try another body.

Probably like if you extend people it just kicks the can. No reason to add more problem down the road for money today if you don’t need the money today.

I'm against 30-year deals for running backs

Jesus way more than I thought. An older expensive running back. Good call 84

Yeah and what’s the difference between all those guys and Montgomery?

I’d be shocked if he gets more than a conditional. Plenty of free agent running backs that only cost money and veteran players always return less than fans expect.

Tigers win it all, ask me why in about a month