AlaskanTigersFan

San Diego and NY also had 2-3 other superstars on their teams at the time in their lineup..... The Tigers got 0..... (You could make a case for Greene, but he's not Aaron Judge or Tatis......). Trade Skubal.

Jim Bowden proposed this. I'd take that deal. Pray Glasnow is healthy. I'd rather have Roki than Glasnow but this would be a good haul for Skubal.

Musta been Mike Morath.... lol. Every game I went to of his, he got shelled except for the one game he took the perfect game into the 8th. I was in a suite that game invited by Fox Sports. I was also at Galleraga's Perfect Imperfect game too. I must be bad luck.... fml.

No thanks. He'd cost Max Clark at least. If not Clark and Rainer. Rather have the two kids.

I was literally going to mention these two along with Bobby Higginson. Carlos and Pudge are what brought the Tigers back from the dead which then forced Illitch to get Ordonez. But it started with Carlos, then Pudge. Bonderman shoulda taken Mr. Snappy to the BP and been a closer. Probably would have won a few Cy Youngs and gave Eric Gagne a run for his money as the best reliever back then. Bobby Higginson made THE BEST throw I have ever seen. I've never been more convinced someone was on roids moreso than him (joking, but not. We all know Barry Bonds but shpppshhhh). Bobby Higginson made a throw from the RF corner that was a MISSILE to 3B to cut someone down. I screamed so loud at my brother to come see it, saying there'd never be a play like that ever again. Best throw of all time. It literally looked like he had an Angel from the movie Angel in the Outfield helping him throw it. To this day, I will go to my grave saying it was the best throw by an outfielder in MLB history...... One other underappreciated Tiger would be Brandon Inge. Dude played non stop, never complained and always was the glue for the Tigers. He also spent a ton of time with fans before and after games. Great guy. He also drove a red ferrari which was hard to miss. I grew up in Pinckney and would drive through Dexter all the time where he lived, and you could always tell when he was in town..... I guess he has a sports complex between Brighton, South Lyon right off US-23 now that he runs. I'd love to try and talk with him sometime. Always seemed like a cool dude.

I'd love to see the mound moved back 6 inches or so. I think that'd give more reaction time for hitters. Not sure what would be better to help hitters, lower a mound or move it back a little.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6856840/2025/12/03/mlb-vanishing-doubles-triples-rule-change/?campaign=15944149&source=athletic_targeted_email&userId=27759195 - Proposed by the athletic.com, they think there should be an OF line that determines the depth of how deep OF'rs can play. (TLDR) The theory behind this is that there are fewer doubles and triples now than there ever has been. So forcing outfielders to play more shallow (just by a couple feet) could create thousands more doubles and hundreds more triples a year...... Thoughts on this? Also, last year, they floated the idea to bring in a batter that could pinch-hit one time (even if they were already in the lineup) in a game at any point. But teams only get one chance..... I believe the Savannah Bannanas do something like this but I know it was floated around MLB last year to make the game "more exciting" before they instituted the pitch clock. I'd love your thoughts on this? For the first idea, I don't like the line personally. I think advanced data has made an adjustment and we just kind of have to live with that..... As for the miracle pinch hitter, I'd love to see that option available only if a game goes extra innings! So from inning 10 on (in the regular season only!). I think that'd add some excitement and also speed up some games too. What do you guys think? Or are there any other rules that are kind of crazy that you'd think of.... ?

4.00+ ERA with a 1.20 WHIP +

I'd like to give him AND Beuhler a shot. See what Fetter can do w/ them.

Good try by Harris to try and get a draft pick. Part of me thinks he didn't really want Torres to re-sign but wanted the extra pick if he could get it.

Do you guys want Torres to accept the QO? I'm kind of leaning towards no as I want to see some young guys in the lineup and get that pick. But curious what you guys think.

By the way, this is by far the most boring off season in history of MLB so far............

If Jud Fabian becomes a minor league fa, I want him.

I get the sarcasm, but I'll still go with 6 years. 🙂

Only a matter of time I think until Skenes duplicates this. Those two are on another level right now.

Just curious on ya'll's thoughts....... Nick Kurtz - Unanimous rookie of the year. Why do they love platoon players? Sure he hit out of this world versus Righties (albeit with a .364 BABIP). But look at his left split. .197/.261/.423..... Do you think its ok for MLB to overlook such drastics? How many platoon players do you think it's ok to have on a MLB roster? Kurtz for example, if the opposing team brings in a lefty reliever with the game on the line, do you leave him in? Just curious what you guys think.

I jsut hope opening day he doesn't grab his left arm and need Tommy John surgery. That'd be a kick in the knockers. Harris should be fired immediately and Illitch should sell the team. MOo, MOo.

Yep. No fault there. Like I said, I'm of the minority and I know it. But I want you to screen shot this. If come the All-Star break and we are 7 games below .500, just remember this post lol. Naww, I hope I'm wrong and really hope you're right. I just don't see it happening. Not with our lineup. We need help, and the reinforcements we get this year from the farm, might need another year to really help us. So I think it's a moot point. I really hope I'm wrong. I just don't think I am....... (But hey, I've been wrong two years in a row!) If we keep Skubal great. As long as he doesn't throw out his arm on opening day, I'll be happy as a clam. But if he does, I will be the only person really on this board saying "I told you so.........". (Taking a picture now and putting it on my calendar to have this emailed to me mid-year next year. Let see who was right 😁)

Would love to get him, but they want to contend next year. McLean is the furthest advanced between the three. He'd be their #2 starter. (I think the Mets would sign Cease if they got Skubal).

Yes. I would. (I don't think you'd have to sacrifice 2027 as well, but yes, I'd sacrifice 2026). But I also think next year would be an adjustment anyways while waiting for McGonigle, Clark, Briceno and Liranzo to make their debuts and break in. Not to mention, hopefully Jobe should be back in August (fingers crossed). There's your true core to add to Greene, Dingler, Keith and Carpenter (hopefully Tork too but we'll see). Sacrifice next year for a decade run. Boston basically did it with their big 3 this year. I fully expect Mayer, Campbell and Anthony to be studs. Tigers could make plenty of trades with Meadows, Max Anderson (who very well could be our 3B of the future if he keeps this up), Lee, Wencel Perez etc........ to add to their pitching. There's a logjam there which could get us some decent pitchers. Keep in mind though, I'm the minority here by far. Also too, I am legit the only person on this board who thinks we've overperformed the last two years as well. If you look back to the beginning of last season, I posted that I'd be happy if we were a .500 team this past year and that the previous year was an aberration. Glad I was wrong. You can stop reading here, now I'm just bored to prove a point: ________________________ Fangraphs Team Stats for 2025 Tigers were EXACTLY league average offensively - 100 wRC+ (19th in the league) 5th in SO % - 24.8% 19th in BB% - 7.8 21st in Average - .241 24th in OBP - .306 16th in Fielding - -8.2 16th in WAR - at 36.3 Not going to lie, I'm astonished we made the playoffs. The only thing we made a top 15 in as an offensive category was the one thing you wanted to be dead last in and that's Strike Out Percentage....... On Paper, this team sucks. Barely league average. Almost last in OBP. So yes, if I could trade Skubal and get all of those in the top 10-15 range....... I'd do it. I get it WAR is an arbitrary number, and you can make the argument it legit doesn't mean **** since the Tigers were one inning away from the ALCS. But the TOP 10 TEAMS in MLB had an AVERAGE WAR of 51.73. THAT'S 15 POINTS HIGHER than the Tigers. We would literally need to add 3 Juan Soto's to our lineup to be a TINY bit better than AVERAGE offensively to the top 10 teams in the league. Let that sink in. That is why I think the Tigers have overperformed the last two years. And that is why the Tigers should trade Skubal. But hey, just my $0.02.

They are man. Strat-o-matic baseball is the best. Part of a league been going on since the 70's..... Crazy league.

The point I was trying to make is that statistics and evaluation of prospects through advanced metrics make it more likely to "hit" on a prospect than ever before. Bat speed, launch angle, hard hit%, Barrel % etc.... these weren't around 20 years ago. By looking at these and other stats, we can now identify higher pedigree prospects than ever before. Can there still be duds? Of course! You're asking a guy to hit a 2.75" ball being thrown at 100 mph, under in some cases 54 feet, with a reaction time of less than half a second....... Not everyone is super human. But like it was stated in Moneyball, Pete told Billy Bean after he was asked if he'd take Bean in the first round, "I'd have taken you in the 9th round, no signing bonus....." Times have changed............. (That conversation never happened IRL, but you get the point).

Two words: Bill James. The scouting in baseball today is not even comparable to what it was even 10 years ago.... Advanced metrics make scouting more of a science today than ever. Sure there will be misses. But the knowledge on players is on a whole nother planet. Think about going to the moon today versus the 60's when Apollo 11 landed..... They both got there, but how they are done is COMPLETELY different...... (Sorry space week here at UCF). I think a generational trade like this will/could/and should alter the trajectory of the Tigers for the next 15 years......

You already answered your own question. The trade I WANT to happen is Skubal for Andrew Painter, Aiden Miller and Justin Crawford. *IF* the Phillies re-sign Schwarber, this is VERY realistic to happen. They will be all in next year and a rotation of Skubal, Wheeler, Nola, Luzardo........ WOW! This all hinges on if the Phillies re-sign Schwarbs though. They won't go for Tucker as their window of contention is 2-3 years. So they need immediate impact, then Dave can leave an go on to the next team. The two more likely scenarios are a trade to Seattle or a trade to the Mets. Seattle - Colt Emerson, Lazaro Monetez and Harry Ford for Skubal Mets - Benge/or Williams, Tong, Sproat for Skubal. Even though I've been saying this for 3 weeks (look back on this thread), now media must be listening to me: "The Mets might be at the front of that line. A previous report from The Athletic's Will Sammon, noted the Mets "are expected to get involved" in Skubal trade talks. Sammon also opined that the Tigers' asking price may be "two top-level starting pitchers and a position player prospect." And you really can't rule out the Dodgers. I know that's very cliche, but Sasaki + De Pala + Alex Freeland could be a possibility too. The only hesitation I have with this is the Dodgers are trying to be the destination for Japanese superstars. They've invested a ton of money into Japan and now stream every home game in Japan. So for them to give up Sasaki who I really think legit, may be the most underrated player in MLB, would be beyond unfathomable to the Japanese. So that's the only reason I don't list this as likely to happen even though that's the cost. TLDR: If the Phillies sign Schwarber, Skubal better start packing. If not, listen on the Mariners and Mets making the most noise. There could always be a surprise team, but those four in my opinion are in a category all on their own..........

*If* they kept him till next year, they better pitch his ass 200 pitches per start in the playoffs. They aren't getting him backed. Use him to the ground. Skubs will get at least 3 top 100 prospects (or value equivelent of) if not 4. He better be gone.