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Jobe 3IP 1H 0R 2K Flores 5IP 3H 0R 0BB 6K
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another QS from a Tiger starter.
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scoring going to be hard in this game if the k zone stays this big. Anything remotely close inside or low is a strike.
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Reyes 2/3 already tonight 2B, HR. Hitting 583 in his 'rehab' /....sigh..../
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Manning 57 pitches. 3.2 IP 2H 1ER, 2BB 4K
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pretty bad when the old man is your best hitter, but I guess I'll take it.
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totally incompetent left fielding by Willi bailed out by Baez. How many break in the wrong directions do they need to see?
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Exactly. If you were really a big believer in omnipotent creation this should be an obvious view, i.e. "This is the way it was designed/meant to be". That this logic gets zero consideration only proves that theologically there are a lot more wheels spinning on this issue than the spinners will ever admit to. The more likely anthropological truth is that ever since Humans devised culture, the human male race has suffered a primordial fear of emasculation at the hands of female sexuality and thus it *always* looks for avenues of cultural punishment and suppression, from Witch trials to abortion law to the Burka laws from the Committees on Virtue and Vice's in Islam.
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the most I can hope for in my most optimistic moments it that Victor and Clemens are being held at Toledo so they can be absolutely sure before they DFA Willi and/or Harold
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But so incomparable that Mike let him walk because of his loyalty to Holland. My point is we are talking about two different people here. Everyone is trying to hang this 'loyalty' meme on C. Ilitch when he has fired one of the two people he inherited and let the other that did stay pretty much clean house completely through all the levels of the org below below his own. To be objective, that doesn't really sound like an owner that suffers much for letting people go. You can turn it around and say that Chris has dumped virtually everyone he inherited in the two sports orgs from Mike except Avila and Heather Nabozny. I mean, how loyal can you be when you even can Sobotka!
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Ok then, if it's all belief, then everyone's belief is as good as anyone else's and I guess we have to sit down and work out the best compromises we can through the political process instead of bringing moral absolutism to the table and calling other opinions valueless and calling opponents murders and the like.
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Lavarnway == Garneau. they loved Garneau last season and this Spring. Not so much Lavarnway. Is there logic here? Beats me.
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Of course not, I've already claimed not to, but I'm not trying to put a particular view into law, you are, so your's is the burden of rational argument to convince other people without invoking your religious beliefs.
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Gee, little did I know I should claim moral superiority for my views since my grandfather's family was massacred in the Armenian Holocaust.
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your reaching with Trammell.. No-one ever thought of Trammell as management potential the way they did Yzerman. What had Trammell done analogous to all the FO relevant work Yzerman had done (team Canada management etc, etc). Trammell's focus was/always has been individual coaching. He was a fish out of water as a manager and a lot of people predicted he didn't have the temperament for it. Even at the time people said that his hire in Det was exactly to be the sacrificial lamb for a bad team.
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Serious question then - since you admit this is a belief and not a demonstrable fact, what do you think gives you the right to impose that belief in law on any one else in a religiously free society?
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No, the premise was that C Ilitch won't fire a long time employee. Prima Facie evidence: he did. You are trying to minimize that by claiming it was an easy hire, well it's always an easy hire when you think the guy you've identified is better, Chris's old man failed to do that because HE - not Chris- was too loyal to Kenny. Not to mention that if you don't think some crazy level of collusion between Chris Ilitch and Steve Yzerman was involved in the rather odd way he parted company with Tampa (that Tampa and the NHL realized was pointless even worry about) I have some nice swampland you might like to see.
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Where were you? Lots of people thought they would have been better to keep Yzerman and let Kenny go then if Kenny wouldn't make room for him, and he wouldn't. Yzerman was universally acknowledged as *the* up and coming management prospect that no team could afford to lose. If a management who had Yzerman didn't recognize what they had, how would they ever recognize that in some guy on the outside you want to hire?
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Exactly. Before the season started we were all upbeat because they had upgraded in the OF, the IF, C and staring rotation. Not a bad off-season right? Then all kinds of weird shit goes down with injuries and slumps and everything logic said was green in March clearly must have been purple in retrospect. You might as well just go with the theory that the team is cursed, it makes as much sense as any other explanation.
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LOL - pretty selective logic given another 'idiot' like Mike Ilitch let Yzerman walk when he was ready for Kenny's job.
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I don't claim to have any idea when, to put in purely religious terms, an embryo becomes 'ensouled' but am peace with the idea that it's most definitely not at the point of fertilization and beyond that point the only person I believe who should be properly empowered to decide is the mother carrying it. Way too much moral mischief when any other person or institutions butts into that space with their moral pronouncements.
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Yeah - Faedo may be ready but it looks like Brieske may need to cook a little longer. Wentz .....even more questionable. But so far Manning looks on track and they are probably under utilizing Peralta. Mize - who knows? Lots of red flags but then again, IIRC, for all the worry Tanaka never did have to have his UCL replaced. But I'm less worried about the starting pitching than the possibility that both Fulmer and Soto were fool's gold last season.
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What does that actually mean? Maybe Chris replaces Avila exactly when some guy he's been watching and likes becomes available.
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that is a ridiculous statement and you know it. Throughout history I can point to plenty of terrible religious values that have been preached to justify war, death and destruction on untold scale. What do you think Kiril and Putin are doing right now? They fully justify the their War as God's will and preach it as morality. So we don't even need to go outside current Christianity to prove the point though the ME certainly shows how easily you can. And I can point to plenty of secularists who have spent lives working to make the world a better place. If history teaches any single thing loud and clear it's that claimed faith is no touchstone for decent moral conscience. So save that kind of sentiment for the person in the next pew.
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well, whatever. I'm hoping the team management doesn't panic to the degree we all have because that always leads to bad decisions. You have a whole team slumping out of the gate at the plate at once. That is a very weird, outlier event. Nobody other than the players themselves, or maybe the coaches and Hinch, can have any impact on that now. And when they pull out of it we will never know if Hinch and the coaches had helped or were making it worse, because it's not likely to repeat itself. And it if does, then you do lay it exactly on the coaching staff for doing something dramatically wrong in setting up the team for the season for the third time.
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