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Just FYI, one Republican member (Derrick Van Orden) is out of country now in Israel.... so Jimmy's already down a vote there.

That last statement really cuts to why he'd be a disaster as leader.... there are simply things that you have to do in that role that involve coordination with the other party, and he's completely and utterly incapable of being that person. McCarthy, by contrast, was capable but part of his undoing (and why the Dems didn't save him) is because he breached trust too many times.

Jordan's fans put the "offensive" in "charm offensive"

lol

This was from yesterday but still applies... one thing this Congress has proven is that the GOP cannot count votes to save its life lol

I like how, a few days ago, Jordan and his allies were messaging that they needed to elect Jim Jordan to get back to the work of the American people. Yet, according to CNN just now, they are working to kill a resolution (empowering McHenry) that would actually accomplish that. It's almost like it's not about functioning government and more about giving Jordan power.

I gotta believe that he'd probably lose a few more with another ballot if they went ahead and voted again.

MMM for Kay Granger, who unironically would be a pretty good Speaker.

Haha Johnny B gets a vote!!!

Losing John James here seems like a really big deal, the Jordan people were making a huge deal out of courting him.

The last 24 hours on this story is a good reminder that maybe we should wait for some actual corroboration before jumping to conclusions or taking Hamas at their word. Is that too much to ask for?

Absolutely....

It's a cliche as old as time, but when you're a hammer, everything's a nail.... and he (and his allies) basically went for the hammer as his first move to whip votes for today. Maybe he's able to win a handful back, maybe a couple of them voted symbolically today because they hated the process that led us here... but he may lose some votes as well, especially if there are members are convinced his thesis (ie. "vote for me because I'm the only one who can get 217) is now trash and now have a permission structure to go against him accordingly.

Looking to put "Jordan as Speaker" to rest lol

I have no love for Scalise, but he's totally justified here... pretty obvious that Jordan worked behind the scenes to kneecap him

This is catastrophic for Jordan... catastrophic

Not a guarantee that he's sunk, but goodness Jordan's allies (who all said it'd be less than 10 iirc) did a bad job of expectations management

This vote is a reminder that there are a lot of people in the House... and a 4 person gap is a tough needle to thread

To his last point, I just wonder how hard his support really is... it's clear that he's not well liked by a lot of his colleagues, but there is a bit of a "vote yes, hope no" thing going on. And him losing 10+ votes after the PR onslaught yesterday may create a permission structure to jump off the ship (ie. "He can't get to 217, we need to find someone else who can") I think he probably gets there in the end at this point. But after the way yesterday went, I'm a bit surprised that the picture isn't clearer at the moment

Guessing its higher than that. At least that's what Jake Sherman is saying

Jim's made some gains today, but looks like he's still short... 10ish votes maybe?

A lot of them are leveraging for outcomes as well. Rogers is probably the best example of that... he may have been promised items in exchange for the vote. Whether that comes to pass is another matter, Jordan is pretty untrustworthy lol

A lot of it comes down to the incentives for these pols as well... even if you don't agree with them, a lot of them care about the institution, whereas the hard right crowd doesn't... the Ann Wagner types of the world basically aren't on the same playing field because their opponents in conference literally do not care about outcomes (such as a shutdown, which we are on track for in about 35 days or so). I see what is happening on that side of the aisle and am left thinking that the entire system is sort of broken... a system where you are incentivized to grift and score cable TV hits over actual governing isn't much of a system.