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At least among those who would make sense, AJ Pollock and Edwin Rios are with Excel. (Pollock probably more worthy of a "sweetheart" deal, although I do think Boyd/Lorenzen aren't steep overpays either way). I suspect I'd take that account with a million grains of salt though

I think it's less about Candelario and more about the fact that it's 20 Dec. and the hole hasn't been filled yet.

I get it.

Some of the exuberance is that the schedule, frankly, isn't the hardest remaining, particularly compared to their competitors. No games against the Chiefs or 49ers or Dolphins or Vikings. That doesn't guarantee success, but they have a legitimate path if they play their cards right.

Beau Brieske joins the rare single-digit starter club...

Oh My Goodness

This is in all likelihood what happened here, and it's a sound way to make the decision. I think where it runs up against a lot of friction / criticism is that, as sound as the business decision is or whether it is on paper the right thing to do doesn't help fill the hole that the fanbase currently sees on the roster. Certainly as evidenced by the many "what are the Tigers doing / why is it taking so long" articles written / circulated among fan sites and the beat writers in the past few weeks. Obviously they need to fill the hole as best they can and will be judged if they don't, but they clearly didn't see Jeimer as worth the investment at the arbitration figure. And if decisions are based on logical processes or formulas, they shouldn't be arbitrarily carving out exceptions to their logical processes out of fear of the unknown.

Damn, Lugo scored with that deal lol

Drury would make a lot of sense here, particularly (although unlikely) if he were interested in a short term deal.

What a scrub, he's being fought over by the *checks notes* Dodgers and Padres lol

I woudn't have been "angry" had it gone the other way (have stated many times that it's kind of a jump ball decision), but I think one can be a fan of the team and be a realist in understanding how the business of baseball works and that teams often focus on maximizing the value of the assets on their roster. And by doing so aren't generally in the business of overpaying players by 40% or more over what the market pegs their value at. As a fan of the team, bringing back Jeimer if they believed him to be a 1 WAR player at $7 million is no skin off my nose because it isn't my money. But it would objectively be a dumb decision to do so if they believed that to be the case and would have no problem calling it out as such as well.

From a post yesterday. Given how overheated the market is, and with guys like Zach Eflin getting $13 million, Boyd/Lorenzen contracts look pretty reasonable IMO

TBF, he probably wouldn't have had the opportunity to say anything to the contrary because he would have never taken the job if he felt that he didn't feel that he would have the resources needed to succeed with this organization.

Harris' own words suggested that he didn't feel money/budget was an issue when he took the job, that he would be given the resources that he needed, and I will take him at his word on that until there's some indication otherwise.

Why not both? You can be there to "spend the budget" while also not paying dudes money that they aren't worth on the open market.

Stavenhagen on his podcast today sounds pretty bullish on Malloy.... saying things like we might be seeing him sooner rather than later and that a stopgap Brian Anderson type with him waiting in the wings might not be the worst thing in the world.

You're right, my bad.

Nor should he be.... fan sentiment matters, but often what fan bases want and what is smart for the long term outlook of a ballclub don't always align. To add to this, what kind of message or precedent does it set in future negotiations to do an 40% overpay like they would have had to do with Jeimer? Particular with a first year PBO? Again, it's easy for us to sit on the sidelines and question the wisdom of letting him walk but the Tigers have a lot more variables to think about than any of us do when making that kind of decision.

It's also false to assume anything isn't being done with the money that is saved.

Yep... Giants got lucky there. Giants played well defensively, but boy oh boy do the Commies look like theyve been living off a bunch of smoke and mirrors at the moment.

I dont know if the Lions make it, but after watching this game, I definitely think they are better than the other three teams they are fighting for a spot.

As big a risk as they both are, they are being paid at market value. And, like Candy's deal with the Nationals, both have incentives built into their contract as well. The Tigers were in a tough spot with Candy... unlike all 29 other teams who had the opportunity to negotiate fair value for him after being non-tendered, the only real chance they had to keep him was to pay him the full monty. I can understand both sides, but ultimately baseball is a business and teams (not just the Tigers) aren't necessarily in the business of overpaying players to the tune of 40% or more over their market value. As fans, a lot of us will not get it because it ain't our money. But it's understandable why they did it and I imagine Harris knew what he was doing and knew the risks when he did it.

Can't really change it because it's just the nature of fans, but the decision to tender or not tender a specific player or not to deliberately pay a player over his market value shouldn't be used as an indicator of whether a team is cheap or not. Still think the Tigers did what most teams would have done in this situation.

A rewatching of the video reveals that Matty P is on the sidelines seal clapping after the first lateral Make of that what you will

They have him calling plays? That's insane.