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This post is correct, although the highlighted number could be lower depending on advances by guys like Torkelson/Greene/Meadows, etc. Which also speaks to the fact that, as much as people may roll their eyes at pinning hopes on those already on the roster, in order for them to be even have a chance at being remotely competitive or even sniffing .500 in 2023, more than anything else that is what will make up the difference. Not any one individual free agent signing.

Astounding that these guys will never accept that Dr. Oz was, in fact, a much worse candidate than John Fetterman, even post-stroke.

Is Baez leaving a problem? Seems like most of our fanbase wanted to run him out on a rail during 2022.

Again, aside from Jace Peterson and Mitch Haniger, there isn't a single player that has gone off the board that I had really heard much speculation about regarding the Tigers or that even made a lot of sense for the Tigers given where they find themselves. (Maybe Willson Contreras counts as well, but never really bought that rumor). Let's just see what happens. Whether the moves they make going forward are seen adequate remains to be seen, but I doubt they are done yet.

None of this really answers the question - did anyone really *expect* them to be after Carlos Correa? The 21/22 offseason is ancient history - they were coming off of a 77 win season where one could squint and (with a few lucky bounces) could have envisioned a competitive 2022 season with a future young core of talent. Makes some sense to make an offer to Correa under those circumstances. That was blown to smithereens during this last "Al Capone's vault" of a season in which they were lucky to finish 66-96 given the historic nature of their offensive performance. One which saw a change in GM/PBO as well. Given the situation they are in, there was no reason to believe they would be in on Correa, there was never a single indication that they would be in on Correa. Nor was there any indication that Correa would even want to sign here. But that didn't stop a lot of us from speculating about him anyway lol

I would gather that most people on this board are just as frustrated as you are with the state of the org. But there's a lot of offseason left. And they aren't gonna free agent their way to competitiveness either way.

It's not really about any of us *hoping* for anything, it's about having realistic expectations of what the team will do given the situation that it is in. Did people really expect them to be in on the Carlos Correa sweepstakes? Or Aaron Judge? Outside of *maybe* Mitch Haniger, I'm not sure there's a single big name free agent that has ever been discussed or rumored as a possibility for the Tigers, and even he was probably only a possibility if he was interested in a 1 year "get right" deal. Al left this thing in disrepair... we all know it and we were all elated when he was fired. But the thing about the disrepair he left the organization in, as much as it all sucks and we're all tired of seeing them lose and want instant gratification, is it isn't gonna cure itself on it's own or be fixed overnight. Signing Carlos Correa alone isn't fixing it.

Come on....

The way this offseason is going, it might not be just ERod opting out... lol

He would have this year lol

TBF, from Correa's end, he did hog out $35 million or so last year with the Twins, on top of this deal. So he's doing just fine lol

13 years... wow.

The White Lotus Season 2 finished up last night... I dont watch many shows these days, but I found it pretty entertaining

I don't know where he'd fall, just don't think Frazier really brings much to the table in terms of what this club really needs and will command a lot more than either Anderson or Rios. Then again, given we are talking about the lower end of the free agent market, the stakes are basically floor level if these are the guys they are bandying about.

I get that, but do believe he's one of those buy-low upside candidates that's in Harris' wheelhouse.

The problem with Frazier, aside from the fact that he'll command more money/years, is that he really doesn't hit for much power, something this team badly needs. Edwin Rios or even Anderson would probably be better options at least in that sense.

Even beyond COVID vaccines, I used to frequently skip the flu shot (not out of skepticism, but usually out of laziness)... the pandemic kinda shined some light onto how selfish that decision was by framing it as how it isn't all about me and it's also about doing what is necessary to help keep elderly/compromised family members safe. Just had never thought about it in that way before. I do not see the downside to doing it even if you are healthy or young or unlikely to succumb to it, the numbers suggest that it has worked in the macro, so I will continue to get boosted.

Yes, I would have.

My point still stands... there's no comparison to Pineda imo

It's also not that far off of what the Giants had been doing the past few years, bringing in the Lamont Wade types and trying to maximize value out of them. With the team where it is at this moment, I don't see an issue with it. Next offseason, if they do beat expectations and start getting more production out of the roster, I could understand being upset with them not being in the running for bigger names.

A little harsh on Seth Lugo, who is a reliever who had a higher WAR than Andrew Chafin did last year. None of the names are exciting, but outside of Frazier (who doesn't hit for power at all), they are all fine to be looking at imo.

Seahawks may be the most vulnerable team in playoff position right now. Especially with Thursday against the 9ers looking dicey They own the tiebreaker, but if the Lions take care of business, they will be ahead of them record wise when it's all said and done

Hey FOX, can you guys finally move off the 35-0 shellacking already?

If "returning the shove" means maligning Whelan's background, which is as irrelevant to the discussion as Griner's, count me out. Ymmv, I guess.