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What were the playcallers thinking? I doubt that was completely freelanced

Maybe that possibility was considered when they chose to roll the dice?

IIRC, the number they offered wasn't $3 million, it was closer to the $5 he ended up getting.

Jeimer isn't bad, but the Tigers as an org are going to act with a fiduciary responsibility in how they approach contracts. I understand that we are all fans and it production is our currency and all, but this is the real world... if most fans had their way, they would have given Aaron Judge a half billion to come here. It's easy to spend the dollars when they aren't yours. I think the Tigers did with Jeimer what most other orgs would have done in that situation. They offered what they thought was fair value, Jeimer didn't want to play ball, they moved on. And ultimately the market seems to have determined that they were more right than wrong in their determination. It is what it is. I just don't think the Tigers should have felt obligated to make the safe and conservative move and pay him more than he was worth on the market.... maybe they don't find something better in the end, but I give them credit for rolling the dice and actually trying something different

I tend to agree with this. Teams will likely want to see more sustained success than what the Lions have put out just in 2022.

Bigger picture, they really need the Commanders to win tonight. Both the Hawks and Giants will have their hands full with the Chiefs and Jags next week

So did Dallas lolol

It was always a tough one from 58 yards, but the degree that he missed it was bad... he yanked that thing toward Montclair lol

Good God Greg Zeurlein has gone downhill lol

Wow

I dont agree, I think he knew the market was shaky.

But also, it's the Jets. Josh Allen only had 147 yards against these guys last week lol

Haha, not content with one massive comeback in the NFL this week are we?

Heck, the best deal Victor could yield was a minor league deal with invitation to Spring Training with the Jerk Sox. That should say something about what the rest of the league thinks about him, let alone the Tigers. I dont know what the new regime will do the rest of the offseason, but I am unclear why I should be losing sleep over (worst case scenrio) Kerry Carpenter, Akil Baddoo or even Bligh Madris will be taking Vic's ABs

Jeimer is definitely more of a jump ball on the question of retaining or not, but Willi Castro and Victor Reyes have all had 1000 ABs in this league. Harold has had that many ABs and he's almost 30 years old. I think we have seen enough to have a good idea of what kind of players they are in this league.

Interesting that TikTok and Gab didn't make the cut.

Can't wait for this to be preempted by the 1st quarter of the Dallas Cowboys lol

Just an incredible game... incredible game

Oh my goodness

You wouldn't have known it from the media coverage leading up to the election lol

Part of the hate is just that when things go south in a Soto outing, they really go south. I can think of at least 2-3 games last year where the meltdowns were pretty epic and you were kinda left wanting to shoot the guy into the sun. The game against Minnesota (after Javy hit the go ahead homer) and the Tampa Bay game late in the year come to mind. My thing is that I don't think he's "lucky" or not without talent. He really does have an electric arm. And the year that he managed last year (overall an up and down year with successful top-line stats), he managed to do largely as a one pitch pitcher as well. That doesn't happen if he's a scrub, and there are other teams who will value that more than the average Tiger fan imo. IIRC, it was reported last year that the Astros had even made an offer for the guy at the deadline, which suggests that at least one team not named the Detroit Tigers values what he provides.

This seems kinda arbitrary to me, but ymmv. To be clear, I really don't care for him either, he's too big of a risk for me. But it's less about actual talent with Soto and more about the fact that he cannot harness it or control it. He walks too many guys; not uncommon for a guy with his profile, but it's hard to stomach 5 walks/9. But the Tigers are not going to simply DFA a guy like that (nor should they imo), and we should be open to the possibility that there are teams out there that would be open to trading for a guy like that with the idea that they can get more out of him than what we have gotten so far.

I dont think Soto is "DFA" level bad and doubt the league thinks he is as well. But with the bullpen largely a position of strength for last year's club, I don't know how you can't consider trading any of them. As far as the closer discussion, trading Soto just means you roll the dice on someone like Alex Lange (often thought to be the next guy up in most discussions) or Will Vest. I can think of worse outcomes for this club.

And with that, all big names SS candidates switched teams this offseason

I do think, on the board, we probably do slightly underrate the possibility of a bounce back or much better offensive production than 2022. Austin Meadows is a great example... he was a complete non-entity last year and if he does come back and be productive, it's almost serves as a free agent signing of its own and would provide something the team didn't have at all last year. Other individual players could play better than in 2022 as well, such as Schoop or Baddoo or others. Rogers could come in and produce as well. They could make a few signings, etc. Really, what will make or break this team offensively (ie, whether they can hang around league average or end up much worse) will be Greene and Tork, and whether both of them really take that next step forward. I feel decent about Greene, Tork is harder to feel confident in.