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Also not seeing a whole lot from these statements (Jeffries, O'Malley Dillon, AOC) that really conflict with the idea that a drop out is being considered or will happen. Like, the status quo statements are going to hold until the moment that the status quo ends (should it indeed end)... nobody is going to come out and get ahead of that, certainly not figures associated with the actual campaign.

There are actually Republicans in the Senate that, while I don't like them, have veracity in their public statements. There's at least 30-35 of them. Through his words and actions since entering Congress, Hawley just isn't one of them.

So I am supposed to accept anything that Josh Hawley says at face value? Particularly on a subject like this, given his role in creating the conditions that led to January 6th? It's not about it being a Dem source or not, it's that Josh Hawley himself, through his words and actions since entering congress in 2019, hasn't proven to be someone worth trusting IMO. Sorry if that offends you.

Marjorie Taylor Greene sits on some committees in Congress.... does that make her stature unimpeachable too?

Josh Hawley happens to be a US Senator, which clearly means that he's always right and should never be questioned.

And with the exception of the Detroit rally, it's hard to look at the body of what he has done since the debate and see him effectively prosecuting the case. Hence why we are here.

But again this presents the problem: he's not out there, he's not on offense, he's not doing much of anything. Obviously at this very moment he has COVID but, ever since this debate, with the exception of his Detroit rally, he has not been able to defend himself or generate any sort of offense to go on. We can talk about what Biden should and shouldn't do all we want.... I've frequently also said during some of their leaner months the past few years that the Detroit Tigers should just hit more home runs too. But it's not enough to just talk about it, you have to *do* it. I am caught in the middle on this and have been ever since the debate.... there's been a lot of things about this whole episode that have been unfair, not the least of which is the casual and gross tossing around of clinical terms like "dementia", especially from people who know better. But on the other hand, the concerns about whether he has enough juice to do this aren't meritless either.... I have eyes and can observe what he's doing. And I just don't know that it works in terms of prosecuting the case for another four years.

The problem for Biden is that I don't think that performance by Trump is going to tamp down any of the issues he has within his own party.... which seems like a more immediate concern

Also beyond me how many people hear a "pivot" being promised from his advisors and take it at face value. He's not changing.... maybe he's older and doesn't have the juice that he used to, but content wise, what you see is what you get. It's never going to change.

He did the exact opposite - he had a prepared speech and largely didn't give it. I think he'll maybe get some mileage out of the first 15 to 20 mins... but it just wasn't a good speech. Lucky for him that a lot of the people that Tater is asking about will be watching viral clips and snippets. Otherwise, I agree... As bleak as things have been, tonight shows that he can still be beat. And whatever step lies next needs to be dealt with in short order

If he'd have wrapped at around minute 70 (still way longer than normal), this would be more the case... But the longer he goes on, the more and more the speech itself becomes the takeaway of the night.

Is this the longest acceptance speech ever? It's pushing an hour and a half lol

There will be snippets of the convention coverage tonight that may go viral and be interesting (Hulk Hogan... It's awful but can see the appeal). The speech itself isn't gonna land IMO. He'll likely get graded on a curve for the first 15 mins, but even that wasn't all that good. Just doesn't have the zip on the heater anymore

Coauthor of Project 2025, the plan that I have never heard of and definitely have nothing to do with... (Wink wink)

Good Lord, what a bunch of morons. We've been watching this guy for 8 years... There's never a pivot! Good grief

Gotta say... Not feeling the unity here.

He's the same as he ever was, but instead of throwing 96-98, he's throwing 91-93.... It would get more attention if it weren't for Biden being even older IMO

If this thing is gonna be one of his rallies, how many TVs start to tune out? It's already past 11:00 Eastern lol

This speech is really low energy...

Worth noting the fire jacket on the stage misspelled the last name of the victim shot during the assassination attempt... I have no idea if it's the real jacket or not, but this is Trump we are dealing with, so...

Crazy how the NYT has fallen in quality

Hulk showing up... On the heels of the porn star lady last night apparently lol

Color me surprised that there may be more to the story than what the Blue Check guy who makes money getting people angry said

That's Jerry Jr.