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Frank Catalonotto > Juan Gonzalez

Was that an option?

I’d rather have had Fryman than Bernie in the first place…..

I think he was the only Cleveland player I ever rooted for.

Baseball not having stupid gimmicks is the main thing I like about it. Let the ADHD crowd go follow something else.

If he’s good enough to make the team over other players and contribute positively, they’d find a position for him.

Obviously Harris should’ve traded for Ohtani. I mean…..duh.

You’d think Skubal would want to go to a contender…..

You either trade him in the offseason or keep him through next year and let everyone know that’s the plan. You aren’t getting anything good trying to deal him at the deadline. If the season starts out badly, every other GM is gonna be circling the waters trying to get Skubal for Pennies on the dollar.

I’d have to imagine if that’s accurate then the reason for that gap is the years attached to it and/or incentives

I’d like to see us sign one more legitimate starter—maybe Dylan Cease—and start Olson or Flaherty as a late inning reliever—and then convert them back to starter when the inevitable injury happens. Depending on when Jobe is able to return, maybe use him in a late inning role as well. I’d trust that more than bringing in bargain bin relievers who are free agents. I would also like to get Danny Coloumbe so we have a better LHP out of the pen than the Holton/Hurter combo

Supposedly he may have been available had we made the WS. Seems like he would be good to go for Spring.

Based on how Toronto has played….its looking like we were a Javy broken bat from the World Series…..

We have a major potential problem developing. The Twins are interviewing Nick Punto for their managerial opening. If he gets it, we are doomed to lose every game vs Minnesota by ridiculous BABIP and other assorted small-ball related shenanigans.

The Skubal problem would have been quite a bit less complicated if Jobe hadn’t gotten injured. I’d feel a lot better about keeping Skubal and letting him walk if we had an heir apparent in house.

There were about 2,000 less strikeouts league wide than there was in 2019. Granted, there’s over 10k more per year now than there was 30 years ago. Pitchers definitely throw harder and put a lot more spin on the ball than they used to—but they’re also a lot more fragile and don’t throw as many pitches. I think you’d see change once teams stop giving huge contracts to pitchers—it would incentivize pitchers themselves to back down a little bit to stay healthier collectively. I think the long term trend will be to have a roster full of pitchers who still throw hard, but only pitch 2-3 innings per appearance. Starters will go the way of the dinosaur in another decade if things stay as they are IMO.

I don’t know if it’s official yet, just a lot of news sites speculating that it will be the punishment.

Didn’t see it mentioned anywhere: Apparently Emmanuel Claase will be banned from MLB for the gambling investigation

To some extent I agree with you. On the flip side, trading two of the top 6 prospects away and then Skubal walking away would just as easily nuke any chance of competing after next year. I’d look to trade Skubal or Greene this year with the goal of getting major league ready help along with a prospect or two. I’d at the very least entertain offers for either guy just to get a read of the room this winter

Suarez is the exact opposite type of player than what we should be looking to acquire

I’m fine with Harris to this point, but this offseason is his first big test. I understood everything he was trying to do this year and it unfortunately fell apart unexpectedly. I will judge him a lot harsher from this point forward because this offseason through the next trade deadline is critical for the direction of the franchise.

I’m fine if we decide to keep Skubal IF We address the deficiencies of this roster. If we are going to run it back with the current lineup, and then just piece together a makeshift bullpen again—then why keep Skubal? Two years in a row we’ve seen that what we have now is not enough. Expecting Jobe to become anything close to what Skubal is now is wishful thinking. Olsen has had consecutive years of missing good amounts of time. Flaherty and Mize are high pitch count merchants—so the bullpen has to be rebuilt if they’re both going to be big parts of the rotation next year. Melton looks great so far, but I’m not going to ink him in as a #2 or 3 just yet. If a Skubal trade can net us a high level arm and a long term solution at either corner outfield or 3B….I think it’s worth it. As of now, I’m not convinced we should be assuming a playoff run next year just yet.

That’s probably a lot more realistic. Then you’d have to narrow down organizations that are both going hard to compete for next year AND have prospects in those ranges that we want. But then we also have to pony up and bring in a couple #2/3 level starters minimally because I doubt we would get an impact SP that is major league ready in return.

You can’t really equalize the value between an everyday position player and a starting pitcher. The risk is monumentally more with the pitcher.

I’m not sure we get 3 top 50 prospects for 1 year of Skubal