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I didn't say things were bad between them, per se. I said, "You can tell Gibby likes working with Benetti, and Benetti appreciates Gibby’s reactions to his bon mots better than Craig Monroe's reactions", which escalated into, "Chas thinks Benetti hates C-Mo, for which Chas has zero evidence, but I think C-Mo is just fine." Which is on me. I admit to taking that bait. 😁 But I do maintain my belief that Benetti likes the verbal interplay he has with Gibson better than with Craig Monroe. And I also think the Tigers can see everything we see—that Monroe is simply not good as a professional broadcast analyst, despite the high level of talent around him that might elevate his analyst game even a little—and that they might have to actively make a decision about him, even if it's to keep him to avoid blowback for letting him go. We may never know that has ever happened, but I'll bet they're talking about it, a speculation for which I have zero evidence as well. 😄

What sorts of indication will you waiting for? Specific hypothetical example of something you haven't seen yet that you would consider indicative would suffice.

And the stuff that he repeats too much is basically the same kind of word salad ex-players engage in all the time. It's one thing and even understandable when you're a player being interviewed. It's another when you're supposed to be making the leap to broadcast professional, and ex-player or not, you should be and are held to a higher standard.

sure you did ...

I'm telling you, Bert, if you're not trading on your looks for a career as an old man fashion model, you're missing an opportunity.

As with anything else, if you don't see the evidence, it's not there, and if you do see the evidence, it is there. I just found it funny that your implied standard is that Jason Benetti has to say it in so many words or else there's no evidence. There's obviously no way even he would ever do that. I also found it funny you changed your line of discussion away from the subject at hand and toward the people discussing the subject at hand which, if I didn't know you at all, would come off as a bid to shut the discussion down. But you're an active and respected participant here, and you understand this is an active discussion board about literally all thing Tigers, so I know that was not your intention. That's the remaining reason I'm still on the subject at all. I can drop it here.

Yes, because if Benetti were to have any problem with Craig Monroe, he will tell us, out loud and in so many words, because that’s the only standard by which we can speculate. And, of course, if he says nothing, then there is no way on god’s green earth that there could be any issues between them, because otherwise, Benetti would be saying so in so many words. 😉

I really dislike how far behind DirecTV Extra Innings is behind live action to the point where I see tweets telling me the Tigers have lost before the action crosses my screen.

I don’t think this can be stressed strongly enough. The job of the Commissioner is to maximize the value of Baseball and its franchises to the benefit of all relevant stakeholders, mainly, the owners, but also, broadcast and corporate partners. It’s not like they don’t consider traditional fans at all. They do, but only as an adjunct constituency, and even then, their base level of fandom is assumed to be immutable. The real consumer constituency they have discovered and are actively courting are gambl … er, betting enthusiasts. That’s because it’s a constituency that has a chance to grow substantially whereas traditional fandom is considered static. Or, even better, they can convert traditional fans to betting enthusiasts in order to separate them from more from their money. Bettors can circulate far more money through the system than fans attending games can. Which is why playing at a minor league park with a geographically-unbranded team is not considered a problem given the current environment of the game. Any revenue shortfall at the ballpark, and even loss of goodwill among the non-gambling public, will be made up through the increasing revenue generated by betting enthusiasts. Plus, with Vegas certain to get a team one way or the other—90% chance it being the A’s—there’s a whole market of betting enthusiasts who will embrace them in a way Oakland or Sacramento can’t, even before they move to Vegas. And I promise you that once the dust settles and the team become the Las Vegas A’s-or-whatever, that team may well become the second most-popular team in the entire country, behind the Yankees. Because there’s a whole subculture of Americans who love love love everything about Vegas.

Now I’m curious as to how “fake violinist” actually works.

If Monroe is trying to take over the broadcast from Benetti then by definition there is an issue between them. Or at least with Monroe himself. And a double for Carson Kelly with one out in the eighth. We are down four, but it’s to the A’s, so it’s not like we are out of this game.

You can tell Gibby likes working with Benetti, and Benetti appreciates Gibby’s reactions to his bon mots better than Craig Monroe's reactions. The Tigers are in kind of a tough position with Craig Monroe. They don’t feel it yet, probably, but they definitely will long before the end of the season comes, and they are gonna have to make a decision, even if it’s doing nothing.

Maeda’s thing is that he can get swing and miss better than most, but when they are on him, he gets clobbered. He came into town with that rep and he is doing nothing to dissmell that miscontusion.

It occurs to me that the first nine games of our season are all against the second-banana teams (White Sox, Mets, A’s) in three of the four two-team markets (CHI, NYC, SFO). That feels unusual to me, as in, that has not happened to any other team since interleague play started.

I didn’t think we’d be 6-1, but I thought we would have a better start than last year certainly years because we’re not playing teams as good.

MTG is speaking to people steeped in superstition and proud of their ignorance.

I don’t know exactly what would happen to NYC or Chicago if a 6+ earthquake were to hit, but I don’t think hastily-constructed buildings like my house are made to withstand that. Just—please, god, let me be out of town for that.

I am—fortunately or unfortunately, depending on your point of view—headed to the Dodgers-Cubs game this afternoon. It will be the first game Ohtani has played on the road since the allegations, so that's going to be interesting. Although I wish I could see how Benetti and Gibson get along, so I will be checking in on this thread to get a sense of that, I hope.

He was never cool enough to jump any sharks. He was a silver-spoon nepo baby.

CERTAINLY NOT!!! 🤣🤣🤣

Yes, being so concerned with controlling the talking points is the Republicans' job, and they are doing a great job of it!

I think it's a difference between understanding that we just didn't know the best way to respond to a once-in-a-century pandemic crisis so we erred on the side of caution, versus believing that everyone was forced to lock themselves up in their houses by the Democrats because they want to destroy America. I will say that I believe that in a universe where the GOP gets their way and no one is quarantined at all or masks are socially outlawed, millions, with an "s", would have died of COVID just in America alone.

I think it might also be a sampling issue. Who are they talking to, or more exactly, who is consenting to be polled about it? I have a hypothesis that the Trumpers are engaged on all things anti-America 24/7, so they are thrilled to death to tell pollsters how ****ty everything about America is. The people who have better things to do than engage on this stuff all the time, people who are probably moderates, I don't think they're answering their landlines and agreeing to be polled.

They'll get amnesia about it by the time Hannity comes on.