Random NHL comments/thoughts

[lordstanley]

 

[lordstanley]

Typical Game 7 goal. 
 

[lordstanley]

2:12 to go. Have to expect a wild final push by Tampa

[lordstanley]

15.3 seconds to go. Habs have missed 3 chances at emoty net

[GalagaGuy]

Winning a Game 7 with 9 shots on goal has to be a first.   

[lordstanley]

Habs win. Leafs’ closest geographical rival Buffalo and Leafs’ closest historical rival Montreal show how to win a playoff series

[lordstanley]

1 minute ago, GalagaGuy said:

Winning a Game 7 with 9 shots on goal has to be a first.   

It’s funny because Montreal was inept on offense but even with more shots Tampa didn’t have a ton of great chances.  The Lightning all seemed to want to take it into the zone solo 

[Mr.TaterSalad]

So Montreal has a ROOKIE goaltender starting and winning a Game 7 playoff game. Meanwhile, our GM thinks so little of the goalie he drafted 4 years ago that he keeps Talbot on the roster over him. Why even draft Cossa? Just cut him if you think that little of him and admit he's a bust and that Talbot is a supreme being. 

[lordstanley]

They filled the lower AND upper bowls of the Bell Centre for the watch party today. 
 

[lordstanley]

29 minutes ago, GalagaGuy said:

Winning a Game 7 with 9 shots on goal has to be a first.   

Yes. 

 

[lordstanley]

Schedule is out. Sabres-Habs is probably the only 2nd round NHL series I’ll watch. Good news is that’s it’s alternating nights with the Pistons all the way through  

 

[Jason_R]

1 hour ago, lordstanley said:

Typical Game 7 goal. 
 

Did I get this right? From behind the net he hits the puck out of the air backhanded, it bounces behind the goaltender,  into his rear end, and back into the goal?

[lordstanley]

5 minutes ago, Jason_R said:

Did I get this right? From behind the net he hits the puck out of the air backhanded, it bounces behind the goaltender,  into his rear end, and back into the goal?

Yep. If you’re at home and think you’re the better team, you can’t let it come down to a bad break, bounce or call. 

[buddha]

1 hour ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

So Montreal has a ROOKIE goaltender starting and winning a Game 7 playoff game. Meanwhile, our GM thinks so little of the goalie he drafted 4 years ago that he keeps Talbot on the roster over him. Why even draft Cossa? Just cut him if you think that little of him and admit he's a bust and that Talbot is a supreme being. 

our first round goalie who cant eve  start in the AHL playoffs?  who has been beaten out by an undrafted free agent?  THAT first round pick?

the moral of the story is not "why is our GM not playing our first round goalie," but rather "why is our GM trading up in the first round FOR A GOALIE?"

[Jason_R]

 

[GalagaGuy]

This Colorado Minnesota game is nuts.  It's the complete opposite of the earlier game.  

[Mr.TaterSalad]

1 hour ago, buddha said:

our first round goalie who cant eve  start in the AHL playoffs?  who has been beaten out by an undrafted free agent?  THAT first round pick?

the moral of the story is not "why is our GM not playing our first round goalie," but rather "why is our GM trading up in the first round FOR A GOALIE?"

Cossa had a .233 GAA and a .915 save%. He was to 8 in the AHL in save% and third in wins overall. Let's not act like Cossa is truly a bust. Yzerman just hasn't given him a chance to truly prove himself at the big league level. 

[lordstanley]

1 hour ago, GalagaGuy said:

This Colorado Minnesota game is nuts.  It's the complete opposite of the earlier game.  

Colorado's goal total matched Montreal's shot total. Avs beat Wild 9-6.

[slothfacekilla]

There’s the Wallstedt glove hand I saw in the AHL!

[buddha]

6 hours ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

Cossa had a .233 GAA and a .915 save%. He was to 8 in the AHL in save% and third in wins overall. Let's not act like Cossa is truly a bust. Yzerman just hasn't given him a chance to truly prove himself at the big league level. 

i dont know if cossa is a bust or not, but goalies are weird and come from lots of places.  i dont agree with drafting one in round one because of that.  just a personal philosophy.

cossa hasnt done anything so far and has been outplayed by postava, that's why postava is starting.  in fact, cossa has faded badly down the stretch for two years in a row. cossa still has potential, that's why they should trade him this offseason before the shine completely wears off.

[lordstanley]

3 hours ago, buddha said:

i dont know if cossa is a bust or not, but goalies are weird and come from lots of places.  i dont agree with drafting one in round one because of that.  just a personal philosophy.

cossa hasnt done anything so far and has been outplayed by postava, that's why postava is starting.  in fact, cossa has faded badly down the stretch for two years in a row. cossa still has potential, that's why they should trade him this offseason before the shine completely wears off.

I wonder if Yzerman would have made that pick if he had had only one 1st rounder that year. Seems like teams with multiple 1st rounders in one draft often reach with one of them, although I have no data to back up my perception. And by reach, Wallstedt and Cossa were both rated as 1st rounders but I too am against drafting them in the 1st round - development time too long and unpredictable. The Habs got 17 starts this year from a 21-year old 3rd rounder and 43 starts + playoffs from a 24-year old 5th rounder. 

[Jason_R]

Hey, Jesper Wallstedt is seven days older than Sebastian Cossa so it is no surprise that he is more advanced on his development curve. 🙃

Seriously, it is hard to know how much of the decision-making around Cossa is related to his performance and how much is related to the front office’s overall conservatism regarding prospects. 

I know there is concern about him losing steam at the end of the last two seasons, but if you go to AHL goalie stats and filter out goalies who have only had a small number of starts, Cossa is number seven in save percentage. Not bad overall. And remember these players are not accustomed to playing as many games as they play in professional leagues so conditioning can be an issue. And big guys can be a little slow in developing. 

The real story here is that the scouting staff apparently found a great prospect in Postava. It is encouraging to think about going into the season with Gibson as number one, with Postava as the backup, and Cossa being the number one in GR and getting some spot starts in Detroit. 

[buddha]

20 minutes ago, Jason_R said:

Hey, Jesper Wallstedt is seven days older than Sebastian Cossa so it is no surprise that he is more advanced on his development curve. 🙃

Seriously, it is hard to know how much of the decision-making around Cossa is related to his performance and how much is related to the front office’s overall conservatism regarding prospects. 

I know there is concern about him losing steam at the end of the last two seasons, but if you go to AHL goalie stats and filter out goalies who have only had a small number of starts, Cossa is number seven in save percentage. Not bad overall. And remember these players are not accustomed to playing as many games as they play in professional leagues so conditioning can be an issue. And big guys can be a little slow in developing. 

The real story here is that the scouting staff apparently found a great prospect in Postava. It is encouraging to think about going into the season with Gibson as number one, with Postava as the backup, and Cossa being the number one in GR and getting some spot starts in Detroit. 

i dont think cossa can stay in GR.  he'd have to pass through waivers.  its detroit or bust.  but i could be wrong on that.

which would actually lower his trade value.

[slothfacekilla]

38 minutes ago, buddha said:

i dont think cossa can stay in GR.  he'd have to pass through waivers.  its detroit or bust.  but i could be wrong on that.

which would actually lower his trade value.

He can go to the AHL next season without passing through waivers, goalies get their ELC plus one year before they lose their exempt status.  His ELC slid two seasons so right now he's in the third year of it.

[Jason_R]

Whether Cossa gets traded in the offseason, during next season, or sticks in Detroit for a long time, kudos to the front office for finding Postava. That was the kind of move that created value out of nothing. 

If Cossa does get traded I think the market will be good. Lots of teams will line up for a chance at a player who projects to be a strong #1 goaltender.