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On 4/30/2025 at 5:25 PM, Shinzaki said:

Rudy Guimond was taken in the 6th round in 2023.  He's playing for Moncton in the Quebec league and went 16-0 in the regular season and 6-0 in the playoffs with .930+ save %.  Watch him surpass Augustine and Cossa because that's how sports works

Maybe for goalies they should move the draft age from 18 to 21. They're such wildcards. 

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18 minutes ago, lordstanley said:

Maybe for goalies they should move the draft age from 18 to 21. They're such wildcards. 

while they are at it they could do the same for the whole NBA.

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Posted (edited)
9 hours ago, Cruzer1 said:

Marco Kasper Hockey Stats and Profile at hockeydb.com

Nate Danielson Hockey Stats and Profile at hockeydb.com

Danielson had more points last year than Kasper did at Grand Rapids.

last year kasper had 7 points in the playoffs.

this year danielson has 1 point in the playoffs.

that post was made 2 months ago during the playoffs as grand rapids crashed out early. 

cossa performed poorly too.  most of them did except for mbn.

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Posted
3 minutes ago, buddha said:

last year kasper had 7 points in the playoffs.

this year danielson has 1 point in the playoffs.

that post was made 2 months ago during the playoffs as grand rapids crashed out early.  not sure why you felt the need to try to correct me now, but welcome to the thread.

cossa performed poorly too.  most of them did except for mbn.

You should have dignified your answer with a fact.

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2 minutes ago, Cruzer1 said:

You should have dignified your answer with a fact.

again, you quoted me two months after i made that post.  it was made during a playoff game that they blew a 4-1 lead and lost, and got swept in the opening round.

danielson didnt perform well in the playoffs.  almost none of them did.

 

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Comparing Danielson and Kasper's Griffins stints is a tough one for me.  Kasper didn't really get an offseason going into that year and obviously started slow.  But he also had the advantage of playing against men already in Sweden plus the Griffins team around him was much better.  I think he played with Berggren mostly who is a very good AHL player.  Danielson was on a much worse team and was basically asked to be their best player (top line center, pk and pp).  Having Watson as your main winger is a tough ask and they didn't really have a defender good at breaking the puck out, they really missed Johansson and Edvinsson back there.

So it is tough for me to say who was "better" but I think they both had pretty solid seasons respectively. 

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1 hour ago, slothfacekilla said:

Comparing Danielson and Kasper's Griffins stints is a tough one for me.  Kasper didn't really get an offseason going into that year and obviously started slow.  But he also had the advantage of playing against men already in Sweden plus the Griffins team around him was much better.  I think he played with Berggren mostly who is a very good AHL player.  Danielson was on a much worse team and was basically asked to be their best player (top line center, pk and pp).  Having Watson as your main winger is a tough ask and they didn't really have a defender good at breaking the puck out, they really missed Johansson and Edvinsson back there.

So it is tough for me to say who was "better" but I think they both had pretty solid seasons respectively. 

i dont think his playoff performance means he's a bust or isnt ready or won't be good once he gets here.  it doesnt even mean he won't be here out of training camp.  my post was made MONTHS AGO in the moment of watching GR play horribly in the playoffs and blow a 4-1 lead to lose the series.  a series in which danielson did not statistically show the dame promise that kasper did a year ago.  that's all.

danielson could have a great camp and come in as a #2 or #3 C and push copp or compher to the wing.  i could see that happening.

i know having good teammates means you have more points, but i expect danielson to drive more play this year and develop into a better player regardless of who his linemates are.

unless he gets stuck playing with justin holl, then all bets are off.

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fwiw I recalled you making the post during the playoffs (it was disappointing overall for the team honestly) so I got what you meant.  I just figured I'd give a take / non-take about the Kasper/Danielson stuff since cruzer had touched on it and I'm really bored today.

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35 minutes ago, Cruzer1 said:

I was thinking, put Kasper on the first line, LW, and move Danielson to 2nd line center?

I honestly wouldn't mind Nate breaking in on the wing himself, but ideally to me they both play center.  I imagine Danielson is an in-season call up though.

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kasper needs to be on the first line.  period.  it really annoys me that every podcast or article is automatically slotting him in as a second line center and then fretting about jvr or ELMER(!!!) on the first line.  

no.  no no no.  you HAVE your first line left winger.  and copp was really good as 2C between debrincat and kane.  it was only when copp got hurt and kasper left the first line that the first line tanked and the season went off the rails.

danielson can be 3C if he plays his way on to the team.

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1 hour ago, buddha said:

kasper needs to be on the first line.  period.  it really annoys me that every podcast or article is automatically slotting him in as a second line center and then fretting about jvr or ELMER(!!!) on the first line.  

no.  no no no.  you HAVE your first line left winger.  and copp was really good as 2C between debrincat and kane.  it was only when copp got hurt and kasper left the first line that the first line tanked and the season went off the rails.

danielson can be 3C if he plays his way on to the team.

I think this is the case. As much as coaches want to get scoring from more than the 1st line, the Wings case is sort of unique in that so many of the current pieces do NOT fit together interchangeably, even though you'd like them to.

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Kane and Cat need someone slick in between them, and Danielson is a better all around player than Copp. If he's not on a top two line, they would probably leave Danielson in GR.

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Posted
4 hours ago, Cruzer1 said:

Kane and Cat need someone slick in between them, and Danielson is a better all around player than Copp. If he's not on a top two line, they would probably leave Danielson in GR.

danielson may develop into a better overall player than copp.  he wasnt a better player than copp last year.

Posted
8 minutes ago, buddha said:

danielson may develop into a better overall player than copp.  he wasnt a better player than copp last year.

Do you have Copp's highlights? I didn't see him play last year. He should be a checking line center. Nothing wrong with that.

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