Detroit Pistons 2025 Offseason

[Deleterious]

Looks about right.

Detroit is basically treading water.  Didn't get better, didn't get worse.  Wish they had addressed their needs a bit more, though.  Back PG, Backup/starting PF, size/defense/shooting at the 5.  

 

[Betrayer]

Close enough, but I'd consider it a slight uptick rather than a slight downtick. Maybe the moves Orlando and Atlanta made  results in a net downtick, but I wouldn't say it's a downtick based solely upon the Piston's offseason.

• Robinson is a slight upgrade on Beasley (bigger, smarter, better handle, better off-ball mover, better FT%, better passer)
• Lavert is a slight upgrade on Schroeder (bigger, better shooter, more switchable defender, better shot creator)
• Ivey is an upgrade on THJ (I don't have to explain this)
• You expect most of these young players to progress in some way, even if it's a small uptick from experience. Most notably, Ausar, who gets a full offseason and can play day 1.

I agree though, would've been nice to add a solid vet PG, a PF, and an upgrade on Paul Reed.

I'm assuming Trajan wants to see the whole team together fully locked in under JB's system from the day 1 and make moves accordingly during the season with the flexible contracts, trade exception, and all his picks intact.

[buddha]

1 hour ago, Betrayer said:

Close enough, but I'd consider it a slight uptick rather than a slight downtick. Maybe the moves Orlando and Atlanta made  results in a net downtick, but I wouldn't say it's a downtick based solely upon the Piston's offseason.

• Robinson is a slight upgrade on Beasley (bigger, smarter, better handle, better off-ball mover, better FT%, better passer)
• Lavert is a slight upgrade on Schroeder (bigger, better shooter, more switchable defender, better shot creator)
• Ivey is an upgrade on THJ (I don't have to explain this)
• You expect most of these young players to progress in some way, even if it's a small uptick from experience. Most notably, Ausar, who gets a full offseason and can play day 1.

I agree though, would've been nice to add a solid vet PG, a PF, and an upgrade on Paul Reed.

I'm assuming Trajan wants to see the whole team together fully locked in under JB's system from the day 1 and make moves accordingly during the season with the flexible contracts, trade exception, and all his picks intact.

its going to be hard for robinson to shoot better than beasley did last season.  beasley THIS season would have been a downgrade on beasley from last season.  that was a fluke.

i dont see lavert as an upgrade on shroeder.  shroeder fit like a glove as backup ball handler last year after ivey went out and sasser was exposed as being...well...sasser (can we flip him to new orleans for an unprotected first?).

ivey is the most obvious upgrade.

i still see stewart as playing some backup 4 this year.  reed isnt a really viable option for more than a couple minutes a night and holland is too small (although he'll fight with guys bigger than him).

[Betrayer]

18 hours ago, buddha said:

its going to be hard for robinson to shoot better than beasley did last season.  beasley THIS season would have been a downgrade on beasley from last season.  that was a fluke.

Neither were going to make 300 threes this year because Ivey's return will mean less shots, so that's not even a comparison that matters as you said. Regardless of that, it's an upgrade over Beasley for this coming year because Duncan gives you the same movement shooting and gravity while providing more in the other areas I've already mentioned - much better FT%,  more size, better passing, higher IQ, better at moving off-ball, and a more efficient player. They're in the same tier of player, but Duncan is clearly the more complete player and size does matter in the NBA as well.

18 hours ago, buddha said:

i dont see lavert as an upgrade on shroeder.  shroeder fit like a glove as backup ball handler last year after ivey went out and sasser was exposed as being...well...sasser (can we flip him to new orleans for an unprotected first?).

I was so glad when the rumors about Schroeder leaving became reality. The fan base went into that Marvin Bagley and Simone Fontecchio world where they overvalue the contribution of a half-season rental because the alternatives (Sasser) were so bad.

Let's be real about what Dennis was. He shot 30% from three and 37% from two, but that didn't stop him from chucking them up there. His eFG was a horrendous 44% and is 47% for his career.

He's not a good defender although he flails around a lot to make him look like a try-hard. He's constantly exposed due to being a midget on the court.

Not saying Lavert is a world-beater, but he has better size, shooting, defense, efficiency (crazy as that is to say), and shot creation.

18 hours ago, buddha said:

i still see stewart as playing some backup 4 this year.  reed isnt a really viable option for more than a couple minutes a night and holland is too small (although he'll fight with guys bigger than him).

Would've been nice to get a backup 4, but anyone playing the backup PF minutes who isn't Fontecchio is going to be an upgrade, whether that's Holland, Ausar, or Stew.

[Shinzaki]

Reed is a hard worker...but the Knicks series showed how we need a bench big with some bulk.  Once Stew went don we were cooked on the interior