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1 hour ago, lordstanley said:

 

i get that the goal was great, but that's the year they set the points record and were supposed to roll in the playoffs.  instead they almost lost to st louis and then got whooped by colorado in 6.

not a great memory for me.

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49 minutes ago, buddha said:

i get that the goal was great, but that's the year they set the points record and were supposed to roll in the playoffs.  instead they almost lost to st louis and then got whooped by colorado in 6.

not a great memory for me.

Biggest legacy of the goal was the Avs-Wings rivalry. If the Wings had lost to their Blues there would have been no Claude Lemieux-Kris Draper incident.

The goal also eliminated any chance of Yzerman being traded. 

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1 hour ago, buddha said:

pranshanth on the wwp:  cossa's not ready to be an nhl goalie.  fundamentals fall apart at the end of every season.  

He is ready to be an NHL backup. Late season struggles are either energy or psychology. Does he lose the stamina or does he wilt under pressure? 

The guy is six and a half feet tall, so it wouldn’t surprise me if his muscles are still catching up to his bones. 

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Yeah, I don't buy into all the handwringing about Cossa. He’s played 41 and 39 games in the AHL and looked pretty good outside of losing steam. He needs to be in the NHL with NHL coaching and NHL training facilities. He needs to practice against NHL players and play 25 games with Postava coming up to spot start and Gibson dialing it back from 57 starts (second-most in his career) to 50 or just under. Gibson wore out at the end of the season too. 

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4 hours ago, Jason_R said:

He is ready to be an NHL backup. Late season struggles are either energy or psychology. Does he lose the stamina or does he wilt under pressure? 

The guy is six and a half feet tall, so it wouldn’t surprise me if his muscles are still catching up to his bones. 

just listen to the podcast.

he gets nervous feet, loses concentration, and his form collapses.  its happened 3 years in a row.

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4 hours ago, lordstanley said:

If his issue is that he runs out of steam, then limit his starts. Which you would do naturally anyways. 20-25 as a backup. Can build up from there. Not unlike innings limits on young pitchers, no?

he has great physical tools and hasnt put it all together.  still time.

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btw, grand rapids eliminated tonight.

a big zero from everyone important except mbn.  mbn has been great in GR, but he's still slow.  profiles as a good third line player (like most of the red wings top prospects).

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Yes, I listened to Iyer wringing his hands. For better or worse, I don’t think Stevie is wringing his hands. And maybe his nonchalant attitude toward prospects is at issue here. 

Certainly none of us fans or none of the press would have balked if they called Cossa up around the all star game when articles like this were being posted about him: https://www.flohockey.tv/articles/15400654-sebastian-cossa-leads-nhl-prospects-to-watch-at-2026-ahl-all-star-classic

They didn’t call him up and nobody knows their reasoning for it and nobody knows how it would have ended. Maybe it would have turned out great, giving Gibson more rest down the stretch and letting Cossa get a taste of the NHL. Maybe Cossa was destined to have a late season slump no matter what and it would have been a disaster. 

From Cossa’s point of view, he probably feels like he is ready to compete in the NHL. He probably feels like there is not annything else he can prove in the AHL. For all we know, he has gotten halfway through the last two AHL seasons playing great hockey, expected to get called up, didn’t, and got bored. 

Maybe he should be blamed for his late season sloppiness, maybe Stevie should be blamed for his slow handling of Cossa, but he needs to be in the NHL next year, practicing against NHL players, getting NHL coaching and training, and getting about 25 starts. 

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given how much better wings players get when they LEAVE detroit, maybe he doesnt need nhl coaching in detroit?

regardless, i suspect he will be with the wings next year in a backup role.  i think that was always the plan.

however, i dont think gaudy ahl goalie stats translate to the nhl.  but its better than being average in the ahl, like say...nate danielson.

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