Red Wings December 2025 Game Threads

[lordstanley]

[slothfacekilla]

I always forget about the new month new thread thing!

[buddha]

much needed regulation win.

[lordstanley]

Apart from Colorado and Dallas at the top and perhaps Calgary and Vancouver at the bottom, doesn’t it seem like the whole league is the mushy middle this year? 

[slothfacekilla]

4 hours ago, lordstanley said:

Apart from Colorado and Dallas at the top and perhaps Calgary and Vancouver at the bottom, doesn’t it seem like the whole league is the mushy middle this year? 

I think it is going to make it tough for trades to be made until way close to the deadline, almost every team thinks they can make the playoffs

[buddha]

4 hours ago, lordstanley said:

Apart from Colorado and Dallas at the top and perhaps Calgary and Vancouver at the bottom, doesn’t it seem like the whole league is the mushy middle this year? 

yeah, which means there likely wont be a huge selloff at the deadline.  and if stars/good players do get moved, its going to cost a TON to do it.

quinn hughes is going to cost multiple #1s plus young players.  i dont know if yzerman makes that kind of deal or if he gets outbid.  anderson or kadri will probably cost multiple picks too.

max did a question on this recently.  he compared it to when karlsson got traded for a top young player (norris), #1 pick, a couple ready nhlers, and a few picks down the road.  if you packaged a #1 pick, a #2 pick, asp, kasper or danielson, and probably another other lower level prospect like lombardi or mazur you could entice them.

then your top 4 is seider-hughes, edvinsson-aljo/chiarot.  you have an elite playmaking norris trophy defenseman who is only 26 and just into his prime to go along with your elite 23 year old stud defensive defenseman who is starting to pick up offense.  that is a stanley cup first pair defense.

it kind of guts your forward depth, but you have a lot of that coming up.  you have yo give something to get something like hughes.

if your core is larkin, seider, raymond, hughes, edvinsson, debrincat, i think you can contend for the division for the remainder of larkin's prime.  you still have either kasper or danielson to be 2C.  your 3rd and 4th lines might suffer a bit, but you'll have a top line that could hang with most of the league.

[slothfacekilla]

I'd make that trade for Hughes if he indicated he'd be interested in re-signing.  Outside of Seider, Raymond and Edvinsson no one is untouchable to me (though if you want to compete you would add larkin and debrincat into that equation).  I like our prospects but the NHL club needs help now.

[buddha]

2 hours ago, slothfacekilla said:

I'd make that trade for Hughes if he indicated he'd be interested in re-signing.  Outside of Seider, Raymond and Edvinsson no one is untouchable to me (though if you want to compete you would add larkin and debrincat into that equation).  I like our prospects but the NHL club needs help now.

whomever trades for hughes will have worked out the extension beforehand, imo.

[buddha]

mo seider for norris.

 

[buddha]

from prashanth:

"Without Moritz Seider on the ice at 5v5, the Wings have a 5v5 goal differential of -27. Minus. Twenty. Seven. It’s the worst 5v5 differential removing a single player from a team across the league. A -27 goal differential would be the worst goal differential in the NHL at all situations, not just 5v5. Over the course of a full season that would amount to a -76 5v5 goal differential without Seider. Arguably the worst team of the last 20 years, the 2019-2020 Red Wings, finished with a -75 5v5 goal differential. That’s how bad the Red Wings are at 5v5 without Seider. "

he still has the hardest assignments in the league.  and now he's started to add offensive playmaking to his repoiretoire.  he's making the case to be a top ten player in the nhl.