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6 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said:

Again...

If a team is BAD at stopping the run, guess what the other team is going to do?

Run.

March right down the field at will.

Must stop the run. Which ALSO stops play-action. Which ALSO forces a lot of 3rd and longs.

What happens on 3rd and longs? EVERYONE on the defense, even the lesser pass-rushers, gets to "pin their ears back" and go "balls out" after the QB.

It forces the other team to be one-dimensional and makes it EASIER to rush the passer.

PS: If you are an EXPLOSIVE offense, like the Lions or Rams or several other teams...

Other teams RUN a whole lot more because they are trying to keep your offense off the field. At least until you've run the score up to 24-3... then they are forced to pass.

Posted
1 hour ago, 1984Echoes said:

PS: If you are an EXPLOSIVE offense, like the Lions or Rams or several other teams...

Other teams RUN a whole lot more because they are trying to keep your offense off the field. At least until you've run the score up to 24-3... then they are forced to pass.

But teams attempted to throw the ball more on the Lions than they did run the ball and by quite a wide margin. The Lions defense faced 555 passing attempts and 446 rushing attempts. Part of this is because the league is a passing league. Part of it is also because of how pedestrian our pass rush was and middle of the road our secondary was at times.

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55 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

But teams attempted to throw the ball more on the Lions than they did run the ball and by quite a wide margin. The Lions defense faced 555 passing attempts and ...

That's because we were often in the lead and they are forced to pass to try to catch up.

At least the first 7 games.

Midway through the year, our starting secondary was gone, and several DE's.

Leading to AQM and a bad secondary... and giving up a crap load of points every game. Both running and passing were effective against our weakened D. Did AQM stop those points from getting on the board? ... with all his pass-rushing prowess...? No, he did not.

It doesn't change the narrative. It's still stop the run first and force the opposing defense into one-dimensional offense. Go ahead and pass more. But we know it's coming since we've obliterated your run game and we can just pin our ears back on an all-pass offense and bust that up too (if we had healthy guys that is...). Even guys like Paye and Wonnum get 8+ sacks in MULTIPLE years because they can be effective pass-rushers... or at least in the right spot at the right time... when they can "pin their ears back" and go balls-out after the QB.

And if the other team is heavy play-action, by taking away the run, the Lions have ALSO taken away that, if they've made their running game completely ineffective.

Again... you are completely dismissing the fact that if a DE is a weak-link/ bad run defender, he exposes the defense.

A pass-rusher ONLY... go back to where I outlined what I thought the appropriate spot for a player like this is... because a team CAN use a player like this...

But not as a starting or backup defensive end.

On 3rd and longs. On pass-rushing snaps only (IOM).

I will be HAPPY if the Lions draft another James Mitchell. To be a demon ST'er, and a pass-rush specialist who comes in only on 3rd or 4th and longs.

I do NOT want JM or AQM to be a starter on this team.

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