Who should be the next Lions OC?

[AlaskanTigersFan]

Just looking for a clean topic to get input.

I saw Mike McDaniels was just fired by the Dolphins. If I remember correctly, he was considered one of the most brilliant offensive minds in football which is why he was hired........... Take a shot on him?

Who do you guys think would be a good OC for the Lions?

[MichiganCardinal]

My Revised Tier List

Ideal
1. Mike McDaniel
2. Kevin Stefanski
3. Kliff Kingsbury
4. Todd Monken

Strong
5. Pete Carmichael Jr.
6. Mike Kafka
7. Brian Dabboll

Okay
8. Marcus Brady
9. Nate Scheelhaase
10. David Blough
11. Davis Webb

Nervous
12. Mike LaFleur
13. Internal Promotion
14. Jake Peetz

Don't Like
15. Eric Bienemy
16. Declan Doyle
17. Greg Olson
18. Tommy Rees
19. Zac Robinson
20. Thomas Brown

Edited Thursday at 06:29 PM by MichiganCardinal

[Jason_R]

Brad needs to postpone his press conference and get on the phone to Mike McDaniel. 

[Motown Bombers]

 

[GalagaGuy]

Do teams consider McDaniel a viable option for their head coaching vacancy, or is his time in Miami viewed as evidence that he wasn't up to the task?   That's impossible for us fans to know.  

[Motown Bombers]

I think he’ll get head coaching interviews. The Lions have to be the top OC job available. 

[MichiganCardinal]

4 minutes ago, GalagaGuy said:

Do teams consider McDaniel a viable option for their head coaching vacancy, or is his time in Miami viewed as evidence that he wasn't up to the task?   That's impossible for us fans to know.  

I think he will need a few years away first. He's not Urban Meyer or Hue Jackson who will never see an NFL sideline again. But the culture in Miami was a big problem. They were soft and he lacked control. It's why I think coming to Detroit and learning from Campbell could be a win-win for both sides.

[MichiganCardinal]

3 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

I think he’ll get head coaching interviews. The Lions have to be the top OC job available. 

I do agree that McDaniel probably wouldn't sign as an OC until all the head coaching positions filled, or told him he wasn't a finalist.

Edited Thursday at 08:47 PM by MichiganCardinal

[Motown Bombers]

The Lions personnel wise are identical to Miami but only better. 

[Motown Bombers]

I didn’t watch Miami a lot, but I liked the way they used Achane and Hill. Gibbs and Williams would feast in his offense. 

[Jason_R]

McDaniel flamed out at the end with weird press conferences. If I were an owner I would not want him as my head coach. But put that mad scientist of offense in the lab and let him cook. 

[Mr.TaterSalad]

 

Maybe Holmes and Campbell are changing their tune this offseason and will look outside the organization for help. I love seeing this at least being reported that the Lions are looking in a different direction.

[MichiganCardinal]

I think an interesting thing about Rapoport's report is that it almost certainly came from the McDaniel camp. The Lions have no one to impress by leaking who they're interested in at OC.

Just like the "7 teams reached out to John Harbaugh within 45 minutes" story, it's coming from the agent trying to spin their newly unemployed client as a mastermind who was unjustly fired. Except this time it was for the Lions OC job, not a head coach job.

Based on that I'm not sure McDaniel will garner interest as a head coach, but I do think he is interested in the Lions OC gig. TBD if it's mutual or just due diligence by the Lions.

[Motown Bombers]

 

[Motown Bombers]

 

[Motown Bombers]

 

[1984Echoes]

Jake Peetz, Tee Martin and David Blough...

Starting to look like a theme.

[Motown Bombers]

 

[Mr.TaterSalad]

I'm being semi-serious when I ask this, but what about hiring Indiana's OC Mike Shanahan?

[MichiganCardinal]

3 hours ago, Motown Bombers said:

 

 

2 hours ago, Motown Bombers said:

 

The Commanders go from interviewing Tee Martin next week to hiring Blough.

I wonder if Blough got an offer elsewhere and he gave the Commanders right of first refusal. I don’t think it would have been the Lions, he’d be crazy to take the Commanders offense over the Lions. But something fishy happened there.

It could be too that Tee Martin’s agent is fishing for interviews.

[Mr.TaterSalad]

Are there any college OCs you'd be interested in the Lions interviewing? After tonight's ass kicking by Indiana to Oregon, I'm alright with the Lions at least exploring the idea of interviewing Shanahan for the OC role. 

[Hongbit]

15 hours ago, 1984Echoes said:

Jake Peetz, Tee Martin and David Blough...

Starting to look like a theme.

Yep. Dan still wants to actually call the plays 

[MichiganCardinal]

2 hours ago, Hongbit said:

Yep. Dan still wants to actually call the plays 

Maybe. There are only so many experienced play callers out there though. Good ones become head coaches.

Until they make a hire, it’s just a diligent search.

[1984Echoes]

4 hours ago, Hongbit said:

Yep. Dan still wants to actually call the plays 

I don't think that's the correct theme...

I think they are looking for fresh perspective, up and coming ideas or new ideas... etc.

Dan may actually call plays if one of those guys were hired by the Lions... But I think it would only be short term... until they (the three of Goff/ new OC/ and DC) were certain they were all on the same page with playcalling, specifically during game situations... Which aren't fully realized (as a new playcaller) until those situations are actually staring him in the face.

IMO.

[MichiganCardinal]

10 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said:

I don't think that's the correct theme...

I think they are looking for fresh perspective, up and coming ideas or new ideas... etc.

Dan may actually call plays if one of those guys were hired by the Lions... But I think it would only be short term... until they (the three of Goff/ new OC/ and DC) were certain they were all on the same page with playcalling, specifically during game situations... Which aren't fully realized (as a new playcaller) until those situations are actually staring him in the face.

IMO.

I agree. I think if someone who hasn’t called plays before is the hire, it will be a more collaborative process. Everyone focuses on the label, but there’s much more to an OC than 60-70 decisions on a Sunday.

It’s not quite like Madden where you just select the play from a wide open play book and it happens. Between scripts, game plans, and weekly prep on an opponent, the play caller is more an executor of a collaborative process than  an authoritarian voice.

But. I think Campbell has struggled as that executor. The Philly game is a prime example, locked in a defensive battle and we went for it on 4th down five times. It felt like in the heat of needing to get a play to Goff, he lost a feel for the game.