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On 5/21/2026 at 11:39 AM, Tiger337 said:

I always disliked Will Clark for some reason.  At the time, I thought he was overrated, maybe because he peaked at age 25.  Looking back at his numbers today though, he was really good and really consistent his whole career.  

Maybe you disliked him because he was an a-hole and a racist. 

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3 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said:

Maybe you disliked him because he was an a-hole and a racist. 

I was not aware of that at the time, but I probably sensed it.  I suspect the game is filled with people like that.  They are good entertainers though.  

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16 hours ago, IdahoBert said:

It was probably expected, but Nick Castellanos has been designated for assignment. 

He's had an odd career.   I don't think he's done, though  He should sign with the Rockies and hit a bunch of HR in the altitude and some dumb team (The Angels?) will be suckered into something like 3 years, 85 million

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2 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

I was not aware of that at the time, but I probably sensed it.  I suspect the game is filled with people like that.  They are good entertainers though.  

You sensed it, maybe not the racism part, but the a-hole part. 

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On 5/29/2026 at 3:57 PM, chasfh said:

Here's what I don't understand: were J.D. and whoever is supplanting Boog sleeping during the actual pitch? How did they not jump right on that in the moment and say it wasn't even close? I understand being cautious on very close calls, but this was not that.

Not reviewable?

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25 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said:

Maybe you disliked him because he was an a-hole and a racist. 

really?  i was always a fan, what came out?  i sort of expect jocks to be a-holes but the racist part is different

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25 minutes ago, theroundsquare said:

really?  i was always a fan, what came out?  i sort of expect jocks to be a-holes but the racist part is different

I'd not heard the racist part either.....this is the AI take on it:

AI Overview
 
Former San Francisco Giants baseball player Will Clark was accused of using racial slurs and being a racist by former teammate Jeffrey Leonard in 1989. However, Clark's history on the topic is primarily characterized by that specific, highly publicized dispute rather than a prolonged or officially sanctioned track record of racist behavior. [1]
The 1989 Incident
The allegations surfaced right before the 1989 World Series. After Clark referred to Leonard as a "tumor" and a "jealous ballplayer" in an interview, Leonard fired back by publicly labeling Clark a "prejudiced bastard". Leonard recounted two incidents from 1987 in which he alleged Clark used racial slurs, including one instance involving Leonard's nephew and another involving teammate Chris Brown. [1, 2]
At the time, then-manager Roger Craig reportedly held a team meeting and demanded that Clark apologize for the remarks directed at Brown, which Clark did. [1]
The Aftermath
While Leonard's claims sparked national attention during the 1989 World Series, Clark had lasting relationships and public friendships with Black teammates, most notably Kevin Mitchell and Willie Mays. While his intense, highly competitive, and sometimes abrasive personality earned him various critiques over his career, the 1989 accusations remain the sole prominent record of racism claims against him
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That reminds me how Jeff Leonard was called "penitentiary face", even on national broadcasts.  This was widely viewed as funny at the time.  Even though I don't think it was mean spirited, it was surely racist and wouldn't be allowed today (at least not on national TV).  

Just now, I was reading that Dave Bergman was the one who came up with that nickname.  He was previously called "prison face", but when he told everybody, he wanted to be called Jeffrey instead Jeff, Bergman changed in to "penitentiary face"

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32 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

That reminds me how Jeff Leonard was called "penitentiary face", even on national broadcasts.  This was widely viewed as funny at the time.  Even though I don't think it was mean spirited, it was surely racist and wouldn't be allowed today (at least not on national TV).  

Just now, I was reading that Dave Bergman was the one who came up with that nickname.  He was previously called "prison face", but when he told everybody, he wanted to be called Jeffrey instead Jeff, Bergman changed in to "penitentiary face"

Just pulled up the 81 Giants to see how long they were teammates...Kind of crazy that team had many future Tigers on it:  Bergman, Evans, May, Cabell, Herndon, Alexander.

Looks like Bergman and Leonard were teammates for 81,82,83.

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