4/2/26 7:00PM Timberwolves 46-29 @ Pistons 55-21

[Tigeraholic1]

Little Caesars Arena - Detroit, MI

[Deleterious]

On livestream, Jaden Ivey says he had suicidal thoughts after breaking his leg

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After being traded from Detroit, Ivey played only four games with the Bulls, who sat him to allow him to rehab his surgically repaired left knee to build strength. He said the Bulls thought he was playing hurt, but he said it was how he had been playing all season with the Pistons.

Ivey said he rehabbed his knee for two weeks, but the Bulls pushed back his timetable. Then, in one practice with the team, he banged knees with forward Leonard Miller, and his left knee later swelled up before the swelling subsided.

“I said, ‘I’m ready. Jesus healed my knee,'” Ivey said.

Ivey said he offered to fly himself to Philadelphia for the team’s March 25 game. Instead, he got an MRI, and the team shut him down for the season March 26.

Did the Pistons think Jesus had healed him?

At this point it isn't even about basketball anymore.  I hope he can get some help.

[buddha]

1 hour ago, Deleterious said:

On livestream, Jaden Ivey says he had suicidal thoughts after breaking his leg

Did the Pistons think Jesus had healed him?

At this point it isn't even about basketball anymore.  I hope he can get some help.

stuff coming out now is just weird.  the bulls were likely to make him a QO before this.  so he cost himself at least $10m.

[Deleterious]

 

[Deleterious]

Stew gets overlooked with Cade being out. But I'm starting to get a bit concerned about his injury. 

A second year missing the playoffs due to injury might make them consider moving him this summer. 

 

[Deleterious]

Pistons would help themselves beating Minnesota tonight.  Edwards is questionable and McDaniels is out.

With only 7 games left it appears the Minnesota pick will fall into the 21/22/23 slot with Detroit being 28th.  So they move up a bit, but its pretty pointless.  Vecenie said most players in that range are so similar they could go 20th or 30th.

I do see people saying the Pistons should try to move up.  Terrible idea IMO.  Vecenie also said for the first time in his career he will be giving out more than 30 1st round grades.  So the draft is deep.  In deep drafts you don't move up, you accumulate extra picks.

OKC should be a target of Detroit to acquire an extra pick.  Currently, they are 15th.  Well, the Clippers are 15th but it goes to OKC.

There were reports around the trade deadline OKC would move this year's pick for future picks if they didn't end up top 5.  They don't want to add guaranteed contracts to their expensive roster.  They want to push those picks off a few years when they start to ship out more expensive players.  

 

[Betrayer]

I'd much rather choose one of those "1st round grades" at 21 than see what's left for me at 28. We get to draft a player that ranks higher on our board, it's as simple as that. Not sure how you can spin moving up 20-25% higher in a good draft as a bad or pointless thing.

But I do agree with your other point. Accumulating more picks would certainly be nice.

[buddha]

hope its yaxel.

[Deleterious]

4 minutes ago, buddha said:

hope its yaxel.

For what?  Jonas Jerebko's E-Sport team?

[buddha]

2 minutes ago, Deleterious said:

For what?  Jonas Jerebko's E-Sport team?

nyah.  yaxel can play.  big who can guard 2-3-4.  can shoot, pass, and is a willing teammate.  can take over a game when they need it.  he's been the best player in the tournament.  only downside is his age but the pistons are built to win in cade's prime, which is coming up.

morez johnson is another one they could take.  defensive forward like stewart.

[DTroppens]

Hi everyone! GOOOOOOOOOO PISTONS!!!!

What a fun season this has been to this point!

Deleterious with the Kool-Aid man. Gosh, it's been probably more than a decade since I've seen that combo on the message board, but it feels like yesterday right now.
 

Edited 3 hours ago by DTroppens

[1984Echoes]

2 hours ago, Deleterious said:

... OKC should be a target of Detroit to acquire an extra pick.  Currently, they are 15th.  Well, the Clippers are 15th but it goes to OKC.

There were reports around the trade deadline OKC would move this year's pick for future picks if they didn't end up top 5.  They don't want to add ...

Do it.

Future 1st for the #15.

1 hour ago, buddha said:

hope its yaxel.

 

Same here. Do-everything-PF... including having some range.

I want Yaxel.

Or Cedric Cenac Jr. (similar to Jaren Jackson Jr. per scouting reports...)

At 15 and 21 we could get a couple players that can hit a 3.

How about a stretch-4/5 in Henry Veesaar?

If Langdon could pull OKC's #15 1st rounder this year... it could really set this team up in the near future.

Based specifically on that...

I would guess OKC doesn't even want to deal with Detroit. Not in their best interest.

[DTroppens]

5 hours ago, Deleterious said:

Stew gets overlooked with Cade being out. But I'm starting to get a bit concerned about his injury. 

A second year missing the playoffs due to injury might make them consider moving him this summer. 

 

I don't think Stew will be back next season. It's been a gut feeling I've had since basically the start of the season. He 100% has value and is a great fit to the team's mindset. He is under contract for two more seasons, but the second season is a club option, so it could as quick as one more season. There's a lot of reasons to think there is little chance he's going anywhere, but for some reason I just have had that feeling all season. 

The one thing is if the Pistons made a splash trade in the offseason, there would have to be some big salary dumps to do that. It's not like $15 mil is a super huge amount, but it is one of the Pistons' highest salaries and he certainly could have value to a team in trade. 

I guess it's not just a willy nilly out of the blue gut feeling. He is making $15 mil, isn't really even a starter and does miss games with injuries frequently, including last season during the playoffs. 

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[Deleterious]

8 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said:

Do it.

Future 1st for the #15.

 

Same here. Do-everything-PF... including having some range.

I want Yaxel.

Or Cedric Cenac Jr. (similar to Jaren Jackson Jr. per scouting reports...)

At 15 and 21 we could get a couple players that can hit a 3.

How about a stretch-4/5 in Henry Veesaar?

If Langdon could pull OKC's #15 1st rounder this year... it could really set this team up in the near future.

Based specifically on that...

I would guess OKC doesn't even want to deal with Detroit. Not in their best interest.

It will cost more than one first. Probably two with heavy protection. 

OKC doesn't care one bit about Detroit.  With Boston and Indiana healthy next year Detroit might not even be the favorite in the East. Cleveland might add LeBron. Charlotte and Atlanta could tweak their rosters. 

We'll have to see how the summer shakes out. But the East should be a lot better next year 

[1984Echoes]

39 minutes ago, DTroppens said:

I don't think Stew will be back next season. It's been a gut feeling I've had ...

... It's not like $15 mil is a super huge amount, but it is one of the Pistons' highest salaries and he certainly could have value to a team in trade....

Caris LeVert would be high on the list of salaries to dump. He's making near-$15 mill next year.

And would be an easy guy to replace with someone better...

If we're looking to move $30 mill...

I guess that could include Stew. But the team LOVES him so I'm not so certain. I like your logic though... and if the right trade were available maybe they do that trade... but for who?

Tyler Herro? Someone else?

In a 3-way so Miami gets Giannis and we get Herro and the Bucks get our 2 guys...? I would think the Bucks would prefer Herro over Stew & LeVert so that's not doable...

Just thinking out loud here...

[1984Echoes]

43 minutes ago, Deleterious said:

It will cost more than one first. Probably two with heavy protection...

I think this year's #15 pick is more valuable to the Detroit Pistons than 2027 and 2029 1sts (with protections) ...

IMO.

[Deleterious]

4 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said:

I think this year's #15 pick is more valuable to the Detroit Pistons than 2027 and 2029 1sts (with protections) ...

IMO.

I think you're right.

Unless those picks could be used in a big trade.  

[DTroppens]

7 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said:

Caris LeVert would be high on the list of salaries to dump. He's making near-$15 mill next year.

And would be an easy guy to replace with someone better...

If we're looking to move $30 mill...

I guess that could include Stew. But the team LOVES him so I'm not so certain. I like your logic though... and if the right trade were available maybe they do that trade... but for who?

Tyler Herro? Someone else?

In a 3-way so Miami gets Giannis and we get Herro and the Bucks get our 2 guys...? I would think the Bucks would prefer Herro over Stew & LeVert so that's not doable...

Just thinking out loud here...

My mind doesn't even think of LeVert being on this team right now.  On a team of great depth, he just seems to be the invisible generic guy in the rotation that has never made me care enough about him this season. He 100% is a candidate for a salary dump.

Who? I'm not that deep in the weeds with it to this point. That's what message boards are for though, thinking out loud. Honestly, how attractive would Stew and LeVert be for any team getting both in any package? They'd have to be going to two separate teams probably in the three-way or four-way trade. 

[Deleterious]

I think LeVert has been so bad that Detroit would have to attach assets to move him.  

Duncan Robinson is the best candidate to get dumped this summer.  Makes $15.9 million next year but only $2 million is guaranteed.  Especially if they can replace his shooting in the draft or free agency.