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Within the Wings’ past 6 games, there have been four stinkers in which they fell behind Ottawa 3-0 at home, fell behind Philly 4-0 at home, fell behind Pittsburgh 3-0 and have fallen behind the East’ bottom-dwelling NYR 2-0. 

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14 minutes ago, lordstanley said:

Mighty Gabe Perreault with the natural hat trick. He was drafted #23 in the 2023 draft in which Danielson was drafted #9. 

If I recall correctly, that is the second hat trick they’ve given up this week.

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33 minutes ago, lordstanley said:

Mighty Gabe Perreault with the natural hat trick. He was drafted #23 in the 2023 draft in which Danielson was drafted #9. 

the same nate danielson with a whopping 3 goals in 18 games in grand rapids?

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everyone bags on late stage kenny holland, and its well deserved, but how about yzerman's drafts?  outside of round one, what have they got?  

nothing.  not one pick has made any difference and most have never seen an nhl arena without a ticket.

plenty of 2nd and 3rd round picks from 2019 and 2020 have made the nhl, here, only albert johannson as a bottom pair defenseman.

they had SIX second round picks in 2019 and 2020 and only johannson has made the nhl, 7 years later.

you can talk about kenny all you want, but those two draft classes should have AT LEAST provided more depth pieces than that.

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look, nothing will happen to steve yzerman until steve yzerman decides he's had enough.  and then he'll just move upstairs to some fancy role with no responsibility but plenty of salary.

but then what happens?  do they make draper the gm?  the guy who has done so amazingly well drafting?  horcoff?  lidstrom?  bring back shanahan?  heck, why not make fedorov the gm, he used to play here.

nothing will change until illitch decides to move on from the red wing old boy network, which is extremely doubtful.

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15 minutes ago, buddha said:

everyone bags on late stage kenny holland, and its well deserved, but how about yzerman's drafts?  outside of round one, what have they got?  

 

And even more specific, outside of top 6 overall picks in round one …

Apart from Finnie (and the departed Soderblom), the only pick to have really outperformed his draft position is Seider at #6. Raymond and Edvinsson are both good picks but not much better if at all than what you’d expect from #4 and #6 overall. I think ASP still has potential to outperform #17 overall. Apart from that, jury is out to say the least.  Cossa (#15, 2021j is being passed, not only by Wallstedt but Montreal’s duo of Dobes (5th round, 2020) and Fowler (3rd round, 2023) and Toronto’s Hildeby (4th round, 2022). 

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52 minutes ago, buddha said:

everyone bags on late stage kenny holland, and its well deserved, but how about yzerman's drafts?  outside of round one, what have they got?  

nothing.  not one pick has made any difference and most have never seen an nhl arena without a ticket.

plenty of 2nd and 3rd round picks from 2019 and 2020 have made the nhl, here, only albert johannson as a bottom pair defenseman.

they had SIX second round picks in 2019 and 2020 and only johannson has made the nhl, 7 years later.

you can talk about kenny all you want, but those two draft classes should have AT LEAST provided more depth pieces than that.

Well, Holland didn't even hit much in the first round, but you are right that Yzerman had a lot of picks that have amounted to nothing. Undoubtedly scouting needs to be scrutinized but what are they doing or not doing to develop these players? 

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1 hour ago, Jason_R said:

Well, Holland didn't even hit much in the first round, but you are right that Yzerman had a lot of picks that have amounted to nothing. Undoubtedly scouting needs to be scrutinized but what are they doing or not doing to develop these players? 

i dont know, but soderblom didnt do jack here and now that he's in pittsburgh he's playing physical and scoring.  sooooo....

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