5/15/26 7:00PM RD2 GM6 Pistons (2-3) @ Cavs (3-2)

[Tigeraholic1]

Rocket Arena - Cleveland, OH

[Deleterious]

[casimir]

34 minutes ago, Deleterious said:

Is Reed an RFA?

[Deleterious]

3 minutes ago, casimir said:

Is Reed an RFA?

No.  He is signed for one more season.

[Deleterious]

Duren has 0 total second chance points in the Cavs series so far.  He averaged 6 second chance points per game in the regular season.  

[Betrayer]

I'm not sure how to just link the video, so here's a link to the post on Reddit. KMart coming at Duren hard.

[Deleterious]

Big drop

 

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[Deleterious]

They should have won games 3 and 5. 

We should be talking about the Knicks today.

[Betrayer]

43 minutes ago, Deleterious said:

They should have won games 3 and 5. 

We should be talking about the Knicks today.

Exactly.

I said in the other thread, but the Pistons are being forced to play on "Hard Mode" and spot Cleveland 15pts every game. It's kind of obvious and ridiculous and someone should be pressing the league about the disparity rather than just debating the one missed foul call on Ausar.

[buddha]

The cavs have two guys who are foul-getting machines: harden and mitchell.  those guys get respect and consequently get foul calls.  a majority of which they do not deserve (how many times can harden be allowed to run right into someone, throw back his head in a ridiculous fashion, and then get a call?  or kick out his feet on a jumper and get a call?).

the pistons have one superstar and one wanna be.  cade can get calls but doesnt sell it like harden/mitchell and consequently doesnt get as many BS calls as they do.  he also eschews contact at the basket sometimes (that said, he should be getting MORE calls for sure).  duren is supposed to be superstar #2 but as weve all pointed out, he isnt that and has been useless and gets no respect from officials.

the pistons are also very physical on defense.  sometimes too much so.

the league isnt cheating for cleveland, its cheating for mitchell/harden.  like it always has for superstars.

which - again - is another reason why the pistons need another star next to cade.  duren is not that player.

[papalawrence]

I'm still holding out hope....but why do they have Taps on loop on every elevator here?

[papalawrence]

15 hours ago, Betrayer said:

I'm not sure how to just link the video, so here's a link to the post on Reddit. KMart coming at Duren hard.

Ouch! And to think it's a contract season. He is costing himself a lot of dinero 

[Betrayer]

6 minutes ago, papalawrence said:

Ouch! And to think it's a contract season. He is costing himself a lot of dinero 

Honestly, that might be one of the positives to come out of this playoff run. Duren has been exposed and the organization should respond accordingly. Let the market dictate his value since he's an RFA and maybe work out a sign and trade. I doubt they'll do the latter, but at the very least his agent should get laughed out of the room if he requests over 30M.

Then again, sometimes these things are worked out during the season with the expectation that they'll happen in the offseason. They may have been stupid enough to already commit to a deal which would explain the long leash he's been getting from JB.

[Betrayer]

23 minutes ago, buddha said:

The cavs have two guys who are foul-getting machines: harden and mitchell.  those guys get respect and consequently get foul calls.  a majority of which they do not deserve (how many times can harden be allowed to run right into someone, throw back his head in a ridiculous fashion, and then get a call?  or kick out his feet on a jumper and get a call?).

the pistons have one superstar and one wanna be.  cade can get calls but doesnt sell it like harden/mitchell and consequently doesnt get as many BS calls as they do.  he also eschews contact at the basket sometimes (that said, he should be getting MORE calls for sure).  duren is supposed to be superstar #2 but as weve all pointed out, he isnt that and has been useless and gets no respect from officials.

the pistons are also very physical on defense.  sometimes too much so.

the league isnt cheating for cleveland, its cheating for mitchell/harden.  like it always has for superstars.

which - again - is another reason why the pistons need another star next to cade.  duren is not that player.

Sure, that explains why they might be getting more free throws than us. I expected that. But that's not what we're seeing. We're seeing something historic. Something that has literally never happened in the history of the NBA.

[buddha]

10 minutes ago, Betrayer said:

Sure, that explains why they might be getting more free throws than us. I expected that. But that's not what we're seeing. We're seeing something historic. Something that has literally never happened in the history of the NBA.

i understand, but i think that's the root of the problem.  tobias and duren get no respect and mitchell/harden get WAAAAY too much respect.  cade doesnt get enough respect.

i also think the officials dont like jb.  he's always barking at them, he does a lot of histrionics on the sideline if things go against the pistons, he's always showing them up.  theyre humans too and i doubt they enjoy it.  

i do recognize your point that this is outside the realm of normal, especially considering the cavs are a 3 point shooting team and the pistons live in the paint.  so i get it and i think it is unfair.

however, caris lavert, danniss jenkins, tobias harris, and jalen duren will get no respect from the refs.  maybe tobias, but certainly not the other three.  i think that's a part of nba life.

just wait til brunson gets 3 fouls on ausar in every first quarter while josh hart mugs cade.

[DTroppens]

20 hours ago, Deleterious said:

Duren has 0 total second chance points in the Cavs series so far.  He averaged 6 second chance points per game in the regular season.  

That is just incredible. Every day another stat surfaces that makes you wonder how any player that size playing that many minutes mostly inside the paint can't do any better. 

That means all of us here have as many second chance points as Duren in this series.