RedRamage

We could put Iffy in a roll of pass-rushing linebacker??

How many plays until Moseley is done for the season?

Deadpool style! On a side note, do you know that the Lions used to wear red?

They did go 16-0, and then lost in the SB.

15 minutes left... I wonder if there's any "standing deals" out there where a team basically says: "Yeah, we're hoping to trade this player for higher than what you're offering, but if we don't get any better offers by 3:55, he's yours for the price you offered."

It's kinda a catch-22 situation though, isn't it? I mean if you fire the GM, then who handles the trades to ensure you get top value rather than just throwing away good options for little return? It's almost like teams should have an "interim" person on staff. Someone who's hired by the owner to just sit in on meetings and shadow the GM so he or she can step in if necessary but it's known that this person will never be hired as the full time GM.

He was a second round pick just about 1.5 years ago... if it works out it'll be seen as a genius move... get a 2nd round talent for a 4th round cost. I also don't really figure the Panthers as a powerhouse in terms of developing so it's possible that the Cowboys could find a way to motivate/use him that the Panthers just couldn't.

I don't think I'd want to pay a 4th for him.

Still some time, but it I suspect nothing much more will happen. Still wished they added Arden Key, but I don't think he would have been a AMJOR impact guy, just a more experienced rotational piece vs. a lot of unproven, unknown guys. I supposed if we get Paschal back here soon that could sorta kinda be considered another addition as he's missed the last two games.

Texans' Reddit reaction to the trade:

I suspect it'll depend a LOT on how well he picks up the Lions terminology and scheme, but I agree with MB that he likely won't get starter-level snaps.

https://x.com/Rickonia/status/1832505413419593888 Seems like an okay kinda guy...

Yeah I think we've seen over the last few games that we haven't gotten a lot of pressure on the QB and we need to hArden that defensive line up. Our secondary isn't bad but give any receiver/QB all day to throw and they'll eventually get someone open. More pressure will be a Key moving forward.

Yep... I was forgetting that they had the extra 4th from a previous trade and that's the one they used for Vaki.

I see what you did there, and I'm in 100% agreement.

Reports where that the Browns wanted a good 3rd day pick for him, so you think 4th, maybe high 5th. Obviously the Lions do not have a 4th and their 5th is likely going to be pretty far down the round, so this looks like about what the Browns were hoping. They get a late 5th instead of an early 5th, but the move up from the 7th round to the 6th round the following year to compensate. So, I don't know that I'd call it highway robbery, but if that's really the deal I'm more than okay with it. Smith is still under contract for 2025, right?

Just thinking out loud but I think a rental is less likely to get Holmes to trade. I think he's going to want something more than just a 2-3 months of a player for a pick. Edit to add: I also worry about if the Lions are trying to get something better and so waiting on Smith... that can bite you in the butt. If we're waiting for something better and the Brown get an offer from someone else while we're waiting might they pull the trigger and then we're left with nothing? There was a rumor earlier that the Browns were the ones waiting, hoping for a better offer than what the Lions were willing to do. That would make me less nervous if true.

This is honestly so disrespectful of Holmes. I keep hitting F5 and still nothing done. Doesn't he know that I won't be able to get a good nights sleep like this??

If it's the Browns holding out hoping for something better that makes me feel better than if the Lions were holding out hoping the Browns would drop the price. I was worried that the Lions would be too stingy and someone else would pick up the trade pieces before the Lions could.

True... which means he might be slightly more shy about pulling the trigger.

Probably just generic roster moves. Both these players were elevated from the practice squad on Nov. 2nd so they were probably simply depth pieces that are going back down to the Practice Squad after the game. Probably...

24 hours after it was supposedly all but done that Smith was heading to the Lions and still no news. So... do we think the Lions are still shopping for other options? Do we think the Browns are asking for too much? Do we think that the original rumors were wrong? Or is Smith just trying to get Brodric Martin to give up 99 before he'll agree to come here?

And...? Look, I'm not saying that it's a good thing if he said that, but on my list of things I'm gonna be upset about the coach of a losing team on a miserable night getting peeved and maybe saying F.O. to maybe the opposing team is very far down my list of thing to be upset around. Not saying you are getting riled up about it MB... just saying it seems like just a low level news item that I wonder why Dov is even commenting on it.

After a rough 1-4 start the Rams have won 3 straight and are getting Jackson and Avila back for their OL this week. I think the NFC West might be interesting to watch the next few months.

Just not carrying a suitcase... he's doing with while wearing BLUE! so, ya know...