RedRamage

Apparently there is a name for this effect now: The Honolulu Flu.

I heard those rumors too... but I dunno. Obviously I'm not privy to any back of the house conversations or general knowledge but I feel like the Bears are not a solid organization. I don't think Poles is generally regarded as that great of a GM. Now, obviously "not a solid organization" would be putting it mildly if you were describing the Lions prior to 2020 so yeah, a lot of change in a few years. Maybe Williams is all he cracked up to be and 'Flos is what's keeping him from success. It's not the franchise I would pick to go to.

Wow! An SMR sighting in the football forums! And all Lions fans agree: Being a Jets fan right now is about the worst thing you can be.

I just discovered this sub and holy cow is it good. Of course, it's probably good that I discovered it NOW vs. like 10 years ago. Anyway, if you haven't been there yet, check it out: https://www.reddit.com/r/NFCNorthMemeWar/ And if you find any really good ones, please share them here. Ya know... stuff like:

Hmm... yeah, that's a valid argument. Well, more Rodrigo then? That one tackle yesterday was killer!

It's a major bummer... but it's also the one position where I'm not too bother if we never get him playing this season. We've got arguably the best two safeties in the league right now.

I know that at some point reading stuff like this in other team's Reddit pages will be old news and boring... but after all the decades I'm still 100% in the zone of enjoying the hell out of stuff like this.

It's very hard to say... He certainly doesn't have the same aura as Glenn or Campbell from what we see as fans. I'd be curious what the players say about him.

And I don't think there is anything wrong with that. If Johnson is happy where he is then I'm all for it. I had a similar thing myself earlier in my life where the head of my operation retired some people were wondering if I was going to go for that spot, but I didn't want it. Sure the added pay would've been nice but the skill set that that position needed was NOT my skill set and I would have been unhappy and would have struggled massively in that role. So if that's what Johnson is doing... I'm 100% fine with that. That said, I don't think that's what's going on. I think Ben is waiting for the right situation for him. I think it's possible that he may have said no initially because he wanted more experience, but he's at the top of his game right now. I don't think there's a person around right now that doesn't figure the Lions are the favorite to get to the SB in the NFC (obviously don't mean it will happen, but they are the leaders). He's got nothing more to prove. So if he finds the right situation... the right owner, the right GM, the right roster... I think he'll jump.

I can't see Schwartz and Campbell being compatible unless Schwartz has changed a lot. Don't get me wrong, I think Schwartz has done a good job as a DC and certainly has skills there, but I don't see his style as being on that would mesh with Campbell.

I had a whole long reply to this typed up that I should have saved because I knew the server migration was coming, but I didn't. 😞 The short version is that the Spartan/Lions had a part to play in the NFL Championship game even existing. Prior to 1933 the NFL Champion was the team with the best record. In 1932 the Bears and Spartans both finished with the same winning percentage and the normal tiebreakers didn't work, so the league and the teams agreed to an additional game to decide the ultimate winner. This was officially a regular season game so doesn't count at a post season game. 1933 would see the first official playoff/Championship game. That 1932 "playoff" game is actually a wild story. If you haven't heard about it ready the wikipedia page here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1932_NFL_Playoff_Game The game had to be moved inside due to weather and was played on a "field" that just a few days earlier was used for a circus. Special rule changes had to be made, some of which persist through today!

Historically about this time of year is when we start looking at the draft, but we can't do that this year. Next add in such a lopsided game that there's virtually nothing negative to talk about... so what are we to discuss for the next week? Well, why not who our OC and DC are going to be next year? I best option is that it's Ben Johnson and Aaron Glenn... but I think it's very likely we'll need to replace one and I I'd say there's probably a 40% chance we'll need to replace both. So, if we assume they're both gone... who do we get as replacements? Do we look outside of the org or do we look at promoting within? On the offensive side of the ball I think the likely promotion from within guys are Mark Brunell and maybe Scottie Montgomery. Scottie has HC and OC history in college and he's currently listed as Assistant HC/RB coach, but Brunell has been here longer and has a relationship with Goff of course. Defensively there's been some talk about Kelvin Sheppard being the guy most likely to get the nod. Sheppard has very little experience though. He was director of players development at LSU for one year, then became linebackers coach for the Lions in 2021. I don't know if there are any others on the defense that are decent candidates.

I know I'm talking like it was ages ago when this happened... but do you remember when he first was our HC and there were so many talking heads who talked about how his aggressiveness was a poor coaching quality and how he needed to mature and understand when it's smart to not go for it? Now Campbell is a trend setter.

I wasn't really trying to make any specific point... just found it interesting that three games counted for so much. AND even if we took out those three games we'd still be 10th in point differential... that's pretty dang good. And your numbers with the Packers just re-enforces that. You take out our three best games and we're still in the top 3rd of the league. You take out the Packers best three games and you end up in the negatives. Just for the fun of it I looked at the Bills, who are second in point different with +106. Take out their top three and they fall to +24... which would be 12th in the league. The Eagles (3rd with +80) would drop to +7, tied for 14th. So it definitely isn't a case of the Lions being that statistically odd with three big wins totally skewing things.

Just out of curiosity, what would have been the payout on a win? I avoid gambling like crazy because I KNOW I have weak will power and could easily get addicted to it, so I know very little about it.

51 got SOOO lucky on that too. If he hadn't just gotten the hand in there to trip up Gibbs that would have been a TD.

38, 38, and 46. That's the point differential from the three blow outs. 47-9 against Dallas, 52-14 against Titans, and 52-6 against the Jags. 122 of those 159 points come from those three games. If you take out those three games then we've got 185 points scored to 148. Or +37 point differential... which looks like it would be tied for 10th in the league (with the Packers). Also on a side note, it looks like the Bills are over 100 now as well: 106. https://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/stats/2024/points/diff/6/

Can't do that with how much money is wrapped up in pro sports these days. Can you imagine if you paid hundreds to great seats to a game like this and they just decided to end if after just 75% of the game was played? And that's just the smallest of issues: 25% fewer ads? 25% (approx) fewer concession sales? And that doesn't being into question all the gambling implications.

We haven't though. Really it's only been three blow outs, this game, Titans and the Dallas game. Rams: 6 pt win Cards: 7 pt win Seahawks: 13 pt win <--You could try to argue this was a blow out, but really the Hawks and Lions were trading body blows the whole game. There was never a point were I felt "We've got this one sewn up. Now we can coast to the finish line." Vikings: 2 pt win Packers: 10 pt win Texans: 3 pt win And even the Titans I would argue wasn't as much a blow out as it appeared. The Lions still handily won that game, but it was more that the Titans kept giving us a short field. To use baseball terms: It's not like we were stealing bases or stretching singles into doubles... they just kept throwing pitches down the middle of the plate and we kept hitting single after single after single and driving in runs almost by accident.

Oh that's cruel man... that's just cruel.

I live right next to a park that is frequented by dogs. Lots of people bring their large dogs there to run and play. For a while there was a family that brought a couple of greyhounds who were retired race dogs. It was always fun to see them run. You'd get these poodle or shepherds or labs or whatever who would be pumping all out to run across the field or case a ball or just run with each other... then the greyhound would just bolt by them looking like they were running at half speed...like they were out for a casual stroll in the park why easily breezing past the rest of the dogs. This is what it's like watching Jamo on one of those routes. The only thing that's going to prevent Jamo from being a sure fire HOF receiver is himself.

I think it's one of those things where the NFL is a small sample size and so various factors can influence those numbers. The Lions are a playing a "first place" schedule this year and happen to be in a division with two other very good teams. This means they won't have too many games where they score huge numbers because they are playing good defense.

So close...

Not a bad idea. If you used Goff more in a receiver role that would free up Raymond to play more OL, which means Sewell could sub in at CB. I think we've got a good plan here but I seriously doubt someone as inept as Johnson will see the wisdom and make the necessary changes. SOL...

I dunno... I mean Davis was 5th best receiver in terms of catches last game. I'd hate to lose that product with him wearing a cast.