1984Echoes

Thursday games:

Toledo - Two games: Win 1st game over Indianapolis 8-6, Lose 2nd game 5-3

Combined Boxes for players:

Meadows 2-7, 2 HR's 1 HBP 3 K's, .754 OPS

Malloy 1-3, 2 BB's-double 2 K's, .881 OPS

Baddoo 0-3, 3 K's, .824 OPS

Jung 1-7, 3 K's, .893 OPS

Dingler 0-5, 1 K, .690 OPS

Bigbie 1-6, 1 BB-single, .675 OPS

Navigato 2-4, single-double, .840 OPS

Montero 4 1/3 Inn's (game 1), 4 ER's 7 H's 1 BB 1 HR 2 K's, 4.10 ERA, 1.48 WHIP in 2024, 1.40 WHIP minors career (I don't get the Org's love for Montero...? 399 K's in 366 Inn's...? But the WHIP?!?!)

Hurter 5 Inn's (game 2), 3 ER's 4 H's 0 BB's 1 HR 3 K's, 4.50 ERA, 1.29 WHIP in 2024, 1.18 WHIP & 3.62 ERA minors career + 311 K's in 259 Inn's.

Erie Wins 6-2 over Harrisburg, game 1 (Game 2 will be past my bedtime so I'll have to follow up tomorrow AM... Leading 4-0 in the 2nd though on a backup catcher (Christian Molfetta?) 3-run HR... Adam Wolf pitching...) 

Workman 1-4, single-9th SB, .846 OPS

Lee 1-4, .735 OPS

Trei Cruz 2-4, single-double, .677 OPS

Garrett Burhenn (2021-9th rounder, 24 yo RH'er) 5 Inn's, 1 ER's 4 H's 0 BB's 1 HR 4 K's, 2.73 ERA & 0.97 WHIP in 2024 (two levels)

RJ Petit (2021-14th rounder, 6'8" 24 yo RH'er) 2 Inn's, 0 H's 2 BB's 3 K's, 3.38 ERA & 1.06 WHIP in 2024

WM Wins 5-3 over Peoria  

Anderson 0-4, 1 BB 2 K's, .729 OPS

Gold 1-4, double-BB, .953 OPS

Campos 0-4, 2 K's, .726 OPS

Seth Stephenson had a day: 3-5, 2 singles-triple-11th SB, .679 OPS

Lakeland Wins 3-2 over Ft. Myers

McGonigle (day off)

Clark 0-4, 2 K's, .681 OPS

Jose De La Cruz 1-4, double 2 K's, .726 OPS

Jim Jarvis (2023-11th rounder, 23 yo SS) 3-3, HBP, 3 singles, 9th SB, .698 OPS

Hayden Minton (2023-9th rounder, 23 yo RH'er), 5 inn's 2 ER's 5 H's 1 BB 7K's, 4.13 ERA. 

38 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

In 2022 Peoples-Jones had 61 catches for 839. Prior he had 34 for 597. He's only 25 and will now have a full training camp to learn the offense and get in sync with Goff. His 2021 and 2022 production is what Reynolds provided. 

I've come around to liking DPJ again...

I mean... I loved the cheap trade for him, and he fits the mold of what the team wants in their WR's...

And he had that nice production in 2021-22, which is what I was looking to...

So I don't know why I wouldn't love him this year. I still love the trade for him...

I think my first choice for filling Reynolds' shoes is DPJ.

Jaymo to me is whatever we get from him will be explosive and a huge bonus.

DPJ to me is the dependable guy that Goff can turn to, in addition to ARSB and LaPorta and... etc. to get 1st downs (especially if those two are getting double coverage... which will happen a lot this season IMO) when we need them. Maybe Green can become this guy also... I just know less about him, and his realistic chances, versus what DPJ has already proven in the NFL.

Dingler has some power but is hitting like Jake Rogers so can only get to it occasionally. I'm fine with him backing up Jake next year...

Workman was supposed to have some power but it's probably better at the moment for him to concentrate on hit tool to make certain he can connect enough to get to that power (or even have a chance at getting to MLB to make the attempt...).

Luke Gold has some power and is having a nice year at WM, High-A: .568 SLG and .955 OPS.

Malloy & Baddoo & Jung as previously stated...

Guys who COULD develop power (Briceno, Campos) are too young/ early in development to have shown it much yet...

We have SOME power in the system, not a huge amount and there's a lot of risk with what power we have... And not one dominant monster power guy (with enough hit tool to actually get to it) as far as I can see...

Isn't Alim McNeil also eligible for an extension?

What's going on with him...?

I've heard nothing...

Wednesday games:

Toledo - Postponed due to weather again. two games tomorrow and two games Sunday to make up...

Erie Loses to Harrisburg 7-4 

Workman 1-5, double, .859 OPS

Lee 0-5, 2 K's, .743 OPS

Trei Cruz 1-3, 1 BB-double, .655 OPS

WM Wins 3-1 in 10 Inn's over Peoria  

Anderson 2-5, (2) singles, .729 OPS

Gold 1-5, single, .955 OPS

Campos 1-4, single-HBP 3 K's, .751 OPS

Joe Miller (2022-11th rounder, 24 yo LH'er), 5 Inn's, 1 H 1 BB 5 K's, 1.00 ERA. Hasn't looked good the past two years but looks great so far in a small sample size this year: 27 Inn's 34 K's 0.78 WHIP and 1.00 ERA. 124 K's overall in 108 Inn's so he has... maybe something good? Lower ranks though...

Lakeland Wins 16-1 over Ft. Myers (!!!!!!)

McGonigle 2-3, single-HR 2 BB's, .870 OPS

Clark 2-5, singles 1 BB, .702 OPS

Jake Miller (2022-8th rounder, 22 yo LH'er), 5 inn's 5 H's 0 BB 4K's, 0.44 ERA. Hasn't looked good the past two years but looks great so far in a small sample size this year: 20 Inn's 28 K's 0.93 WHIP and 0.44 ERA. 91 K's overall in 70 Inn's so he has... maybe something good? Lower ranks though...

1 hour ago, CMRivdogs said:

Unfortunately the only way to get to bullies like Trump or his minions is to stoop to their level. Otherwise you get labeled as soft. 
 

Personally instead of a debate I would prefer a duel. Are they still legal in NJ?

A 30K bike race would suffice.

11 hours ago, buddha said:

pick a triple a shortstop out of a hat and he'll be better than baez.

Saying nothing about defense... but Offense-Only (and only 85-150 AB so far so small sample sizes):

International League:

Dan Schneemann (27 yo, Indians AAA) - '24 OPS 1.041, career (minors) OPS .725

Jack Dunn (27 yo, Wash. AAA) - '24 OPS .904, career (minors) OPS .711

Jeter Downs (25 yo, Yankees AAA) - '24 OPS .886, career (minors) OPS .761

Leo Jimenez (22 yo, Blue Jays AAA) - '24 OPS .851, career (minors) OPS .778

Luis Vasquez (24 yo, Cubs AAA) - '24 OPS .805, career (minors) OPS .664

Diego Castillo (26 yo, Twins AAA) - '24 OPS .777, career (minors) OPS .713

Colson Montgomery (22 yo, White Sox AAA) - '24 OPS .771, career (minors) OPS .835

Pacific Coast League:

Jesus Bastidas (25 yo, Astros AAA) - '24 OPS .892, career (minors) OPS .721

Shay Whitcomb (25 yo, Astros AAA) - '24 OPS .866, career (minors) OPS .784

Ryan Bliss (24 yo, Mariners AAA) - '24 OPS .788, career (minors) OPS .786

Over/Under on the number of innings Trevor Rogers no-hits the Tigers this afternoon:

6 1/3

Tuesday games:

Toledo: Postponed

Erie Loses to Harrisburg 5-1 

Nothing good here:

\Workman 0-3, 2 K's, .871 OPS

Lee 0-3, 1 K, .774 OPS

Trei Cruz 0-2, 1BB, .639 OPS

WM Loses to Peoria 1-0 

Nothing good here:

Anderson 0-4, 2 K's, .726 OPS

Gold 0-3, 1 BB 1 K, .978 OPS

Campos 0-3, 1 BB 2 K's, .754 OPS

Lakeland Loses to Ft. Myers 11-8 

McGonigle 1-5, 2 K's, .302 BA, .769 OPS

Clark 1-4, 1 BB, .250 BA, .693 OPS

We're going to be seeing LOTS of LH'ers from here on out...

6 minutes ago, IdahoBert said:

Bill the Cat is the perfect mascot for this mangy cat offense.

Bill the Cat is the perfect mascot for this mangy cat offense.

4 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said:

... Prove me wrong, Javy - make me eat a plate of crow. 

Nope.

Wait... let me restate that:

Seriously... WTF?

Did Reese Olson not take a SHOWER or something like that? Is he stinking up the dugout? Did he put glue all over the bench and all the Tigers' players are pissed off at him?

What did he do that they keep giving him these F.U's and NOT scoring enough runs to give him one single ****ing WIN?!?!?!

Because he's pitching his ****ing mind out this year and has squat to show for it. How has he ****ed his teammates so badly that they are doing this to him every single game?

Seriously... WTF?

We can't score a single ****ing RUN against Ryan MF'ing Weathers?

Seriously... WTF?

Ryan MF'ing Weathers is pitching a no-hitter against us...?

2 hours ago, Gozer said:

Living in Knoxville I can tell you that he is a much better passer than runner.  He can run/scramble but this not what made him SEC player of the year.  He is accurate and makes good decisions.  I say this lightly...like an Aaron Rodgers type.

I thought the scouting prospect analysis on Hooker was that he a bit like Goff but with better mobility: accurate, reads the field well, has some arm strength but not howitzer level like a Stafford, and some mobility whenever needed to make something out of broken plays. He had a mid-1st round grade but slipped due to age and the ACL. IIRC. If he's Lite or Super-Lite-Rodgers it's good enough for a backup... IMO.

Brilliant move by Holmes to draft him... and buddha was correct: he was available in the 3rd and we didn't need to use a 2nd round pick (which I was willing to spend on him) to get him...

15 minutes ago, RedRamage said:

Is he though? We really don't know ...

Hooker will be QB2 for the Lions for the next 3 years.

Book it.

1 hour ago, The Ronz said:

Exactly this!

And win by a landslide too.

MQGA delusion.

2 hours ago, 1776 said:

Today Israel has been a home to the Jews for ...

3,275 years. Or more.

4 hours ago, RedRamage said:

... What's going to be interesting here is what happens with Hendon Hooker? Given that he was relatively old coming out of college, and now will be sitting for 4 more year (barring injury) what does he want? What do the Lions want from him? Does it make sense ...

You keep him.

As a Super Bowl potential team, who do you want as a backup if Goff should get nicked up a few games, or miss a playoff game, or worst-case the remainder of a season?

Nate Sudfeld?

Or Hendon Hooker?

IMO, Hooker is an awesome best-case backup for at least the next 3 years. Full stop.

Offense bailed us out this game...

Wait...!

WHAT?!?!

Tigers are winning 3-0 BTW...

I don't remember ever seeing keith with that high of a power expectation?

I always thought it was 55-60? But maybe it ticked up as he filled out after high school?

PS: On Tork's 2020 Draft:

1. Torkelson

2. Dingler

2B (comp) Daniel Cabrera

3. Trei Cruz

4. Gage Workman

5. Colten Keith

UDFA: Wilmer Flores

Trei Cruz & Workman appear to be making a bit of a move upwards with their hit tools. Gage obviously moreso than Trei. The only real laggard at the moment is Danny Cabrera and he was supposed to have a great hit tool which hasn't panned out.

Aside from Tork's struggles... there is still a lot of "potential" (dirty word, sorry...) coming out of this draft. 

On the whole...