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I'm surprised I missed this news. Based on what I had read I believed the judge was going to throw it out based on how Halligan failed to get the indictment on all 3 and then got the foreman to sign and pursue with just 1. I'm interested in hearing legal experts talk about this. I have to believe even if this is overturned, Comey will still have the indictment issue in his back pocket.

Batteries are getting better and for many when batteries become a problem, they are more apt to replace the battery as the phone itself still works well.

Honestly, who cares? I have to remind my Mom all the time, if you see stats in a post, unless there is a link to an articles about that stat, ignore it. 99/100 times it can quickly be dispelled and even if it's the one time its legit, don't give it the benefit of the doubt if they can't cite a source. 33000 homeless vets, seems to be accurate based on a quick google search As for the fraud figure, Google found 1 article indicating that in the last 5 years for all of Minnesota, up to 1 billion dollars of fraud AND attempted fraud. Additionally it stated that the 1 billion dollar figure wasn't just medicaid, but medicaid was just one of the programs that added up to that figure. So honestly not even sure if that is just federal or federal and state aid in that dollar figure. Want to know what is outrageous though @Tigeraholic1, that we have 33k homeless veterans and past presidents, including some of our most recent ones like Biden and Trump haven't done much to improve that number.

I've been telling you Trump is a democrat all along.

https://jmail.world/ Enjoy! Props to whoever put this together.

We're a big company, so while we do have a large acquisition going on right now, this specifically was done for cost cutting purposes only. We were specifically told none of these jobs were lost to AI, simply we needed to get leaner and meaner.

My company was hit with layoffs today. My team escaped any hit, but the news is reporting about 17% of our non-union workforce was affected. We knew it was coming and read that October had more companies submit WARN notices in a month since 2003. I re-balanced my 401k to be heavier on the bond side once I got off of my 'all clear' meeting. I think the AI bubble will keep the stock market up for a bit still, but you can't outrun unemployment and I feel like that's going to hit before the AI bubble does.

Meanwhile Rick Scott is probably dining with Trump in Mar a Lago tonight laughing with Trump that this congresswomen probably should go to jail for being so small time and only stealing 5 million from the coffers.

I'm not against democrats trying to work with republicans on this, but that has not been my argument at all. I'm saying make it a party platform that you want to put government issued ID into every adult in the United States and while you would prefer that a government program would effectuate that, build programs into the DNC to support such efforts. When asked if citizens should have to present an ID to vote, don't say "No, because these statistics show it would affect minorities votes" but rather "No, but I would like to see a program put in place to ensure everyone has one as there are many benefits to having an ID outside of just being able to vote in GOP controlled states such as...." In short, try and change the perception of ID, which would do a lot of good on multiple different issues. Offer services to try and help. You don't need government programs to do that, the DNC spends a ton of money on registering people to vote and encouraging folks to get to the polls, this would just be an extension of that. In part it might just be an information campaign, help folks like LaceyLou know exactly what is needed in each state to obtain an ID the first time. In those areas where the GOP has put laws to suppress the vote (In your opinion), this would help Dem voters get over that obstacle and vote still. This only increases your chances of flipping some seats to help remove these laws altogether. Will the GOP move the goalposts, sure, probably, but make them move it. At the same time, even if the goal posts are moved, you will have improved the lives of those you claim you want to help.

Your party lost to Trump. This solution you hint at apparently isn't as easy as you folks believe it to be. Getting government issued ID's into the hands of people that agree with you would actually help with your solution as well, but hey, we're not here to discuss solutions.

You don't need to provide anything. But please note, all you did provide was excuses with a blanket "It just shouldn't be that way". While you may not want to admit it, that certainly sounds like bitching to me. I come on here to discuss and even challenge my own thoughts. I feel I gave some legitimate reasons why democrats should be pushing to get more people with state issued ID's, I'll take your lack at providing any useful response for what it is, useless.

Dealership checks the wrong box, which gives them zero financial benefit, Dem finds the error and punishes them and the Dem is the hero. James checks the wrong box, benefits anywhere from $800 to up to $19000 for the life of the loan, GOP finds the error attempts to punish them and they aren't the hero? Note some sarcasm above, I do believe it's a witch hunt.

What's your solution then? Just bitch about it? This is really all I'm saying. You can bitch about how it's 'not right' and stomp your feet, or you can make it a part of your party platform that you will promote AND provide services to help people get a voter ID which not only eliminates that first barrier to vote but also gives them additional access to the benefits, both within the government (more representative juries) and personal (checking accounts). You could do this WHILE still complaining that it's stupid that it's something you have to do in terms of voting.

Yup, dead on correct. I think "the left" is enjoying the infighting, but that's common of anyone when they see their opponents imploding and fighting against each other.

Even rights afforded to us by the constitution have been ruled time and time again to have limits. I can't scream 'fire' in a crowded theater and states can put limitations on fire arm purchases/use. I feel like you guys are looking at my argument like I disagree with you 100% and I'm some dumb hick that thinks voter ID will fix everything wrong with society. I want you all to think of every argument you've ever used against a physical ID card for voter verification and for the purposes of this post, assume I concede every point to you. (Except that ID's are nearly impossible for minorities to obtain, I can't go that far, but I'll still concede it is a barrier) Here is another fact that I believe you all will agree with: Where republicans can control the state laws, they are going to have laws which support a physical, government issued, ID card. With that, we have two competing solutions: 1) Ensure all citizens are fully brushed up on every aspect/study associated with voter (and election fraud) so they can all join hands and sing Kum Ba Yah as they vote out all republicans, making every state Blue. If that fails though, which will be tougher to do in part because your refusing to play the election 'game' based on the current laws on the books, it turns into nothing more than a soap box talking point to score political points which likely will never become actual law. 2) Play the game the way it's currently designed, which is annoying I'll grant you, but 1) if successful, you eliminate that barrier. Additionally as I have pointed out, there are many more benefits of having government issues ID. So even if you don't end up changing the rules to the game, you are at least improving the lives of people.

Vance is someone that knew better. He made a calculated choice to go his route for power alone. I think MTG was your average mom that lived in a red bubble and was outraged by the 'evil' left. I somewhat wonder if she went to DC with good intentions and is starting to see the 'right' side isn't really working for the average people either. Add in the fact that she seems to be willing to learn and that has softened a lot of her conspiracy theory talk. She will continue to vote for republican minded fiscal and social issues though, the left will realize and start ****ting on her again, and it's up in the air on if she can break free of Trump and not get booted from the party. (booted by getting primaried)

This is obviously fake news because voter fraud does not happen.

I'll give you it was generated by one party, but the refusal to address it by the other party is what made it an issue. As I stated before, if you care about someone in the United States, you should be recommending to them that they get a state issued ID. An additional benefit, on top of the ones I've mentioned and other benefits that I have missed, is it would completely derail this 'non' issue for MAGA.

I have lived in my current home since 2017. Not once has it been broken into, yet my wife insists that we lock our doors at night. I'm not going to lie, I don't think it's a big deal if I forgot to do it, but I try to remember to do it every night just to satisfy her. She'll throw out some line like "just because it hasn't happened before, doesn't mean it won't happen". I feel like if I advertised that I don't think people should lock their doors at night, that could lead to some trouble eventually though. And ironically, your same insistence on telling minorities they shouldn't have to get an ID, as I've proven, only hurts the people you claim to want to help.

An ID for a ballot was put in place just to screw over POC? C'mon Man </Biden voice>

I hope, based on my time on motownsports/motownforums, that this is a generalized statement towards people that tend to agree with me politically, but not me in particular. It has never been lost on me that minorities face issues I don't have to deal with. I tend to think its more associated with class based issues and not race based, but in the end First, i'll let Oblong respond to this statement: Now obviously in full context, that's not what Oblong is saying. Well, excuse me, that's exactly what Oblong is saying as long as it's directed to White males. My argument is that Oblong is dead on right and this statement should be directed at everyone, not just one race. Removing the obstacle of ID to vote definitely would help POC vote. I am not arguing it wouldn't. My only point is that removing that obstacle helps perpetuate other legitimate obstacles that POC have that can be attained by getting an ID. Instead of telling POC they are victims and shouldn't have to get an ID, encourage them to get one, explain why it will help them vote, help them bring more justice into the judicial system, help them overcome so many other obstacles that are easier with an ID.

I was not trying to give a sweeping generalization of an entire group, but felt the only way I could reply to your stats which was specific to entire ethnic groups was to speak to some of the reasons that affect them. I have no doubt that the vast majority of people you talk to are good people. Most people I've met, regardless of their ethnicity, are good people. Even poor rural people i've met...good people. I like the James Brown lyric you quoted and I would add that it is very DNC'ish of him. "These people don't need my help at all, but obviously they need me to open the door for them, that's too difficult for them to do (but not difficult in a way that makes it a sweeping generalization that they can't do it themselves)." My lyric would not be as smooth as Brown's, but I would say "I Don't Want Nobody to Give Me Nothing, just tell me how to get a key card so I can open that door and any other door I come across myself"

I mean, I did say please not to take it the wrong way. 😉 It was just my honest reaction to what I viewed as an extremely condescending response from you. No need to read the rest of my response anyway, it was spot on logically and there would be no legitimate argument against it anyway.

Please don't take this the wrong way, but seriously....**** off. You're not the savior and everyone that disagrees with you is some stupid inbred racist from 'red' country. Poor urban folks, just like poor rural folks, deserve social programs designed to help them. I didn't call it a hand out, you inferred that on your own. I called it a social program and even stated that not having full access to those only burdens folks further. I'm not as concerned about POC of modest means, because, as I said already, for anyone with modest means, getting an ID isn't that hard and my guess is your percentages go out the window if we reevaluate your statistics based on income rather than race. As for juries, the demographic of your average jury is often not representative of the local demographic. On this site you're aware I often state that fixing issues that affect poor urban folks would also help poor rural folks, and vice versa. When it comes to juries, that is probably the biggest example where helping one doesn't help the other. This disproportionally affects minorities. I'm not going to pretend that only getting State IDs into the hands of all minorities will fix that, but its the first barrier. Getting IDs into everyone's hands eliminates that barrier.

I'm not arguing your statistics, I'm just debating why it got to that point. My argument is that you see correlation, laws enforcing ID = your stats therefore laws enforcing ID are causing your stats. My argument is maybe a system made certain ethnicities and the poor a little suspicious against the government, which led them to bypass what the rest of us consider standard government practices and kept them from getting an ID. While understandable, this also means these people may not have received some social programs, further hurting their ability to move up in society. This should be addressed. But somehow, the "Science" party is having trouble remembering the phrase "correlation does not imply causation". It touts to its base, which happens to be those people most affected by this, feeding into their concerns. Then they push back against voter ID laws which would quickly ease concerns by an opposing party, while also arguing that democracy is in the balance if the other party doesn't believe the election results. P.S. Absolutely agree and would actually prefer a federal law requiring voter ID, but handling the cost. Personally I'd probably try to shoehorn in some extended early voting and mail in ballot wording to solidify that stuff, but maybe let's pretend to cross one bridge at a time.