buddha

they need a stretch big man and he can shoot, especially when the games mean nothing. and the pistons arent going to be playing meaningful games for a while.

he's going to make $50 million next year.

it will look like professional sports free agency, which is what it is. there are no restrictions for college students to transfer betwen schools, so there are no restrictions for college athletes to do so either. until they unionize, sign a cba, and then sign a contract. which is what is coming next.

kat flexing when he's down 30 is the ultimate kat move.

watching the twolves shrivel up and die is so awesome. pussies.

i think most people dont care about ty cobb or his legacy other than baseball history geeks like myself. i cant imagine baseball folks sitting around thinking "you know what would be a great idea? talk about how ty cobb was wronged!"

as i previously said, they talked about a book written about a player. they do that all the time. its not an effort to rehabilitate anyone. its content for a website and publicity for a book. youre making it into some conspiracy about Baseball because you dont like the people that run baseball.

you didnt say "likely" before. you said Baseball embraced it. i dont see any evidence that Baseball or baseball embraced anything. i just see an article about a baseball player, the same way there are articles about almost every book written about a famous old player. if anything, sports organizations trip over themselves to discredit their racist past and racist former players. they go out of their way to "honor" and remember black and other non-white players no matter what their actual contributions were. its good for business in 2024. in many ways, its a much needed correction considering the long history of mistreatment. but i dont think Baseball has made any attempt to institutionally rehabilitate ty cobb or any other past person whose reputation has become one of abject racism. i dont see anyone looking to fondly remember kennesaw mountain landis or cy young. theyre becoming pariahs.

youre right, "everyone" is an exaggeration. however, it was an unequal and unfair society.

no, but you said top 60. givony has him at 54, i think. not a huge prospect and not a lottery pick, but someone that some team will either overdraft for the publicity/lebron dreams or take a flyer on in late round 2. phoenix apparently has dreams of getting lebron somehow shoehorned into that team. it wouldnt shock me if ishbidiot drafted bronny in round 2. (if they have a pick, i dont even know if they have one left anymore)

"baseball" embraced it? i think if youre as involved in baseball as you are, you might think that. the average person who knows a little about baseball still sees ty cobb as a racist, regardless of the revisionist history. i dont remember some grand pronouncement about cobb as "not a racist" from baseball. they published a story on a book about a baseball player, they do that all the time. otoh, you pay attention to baseball a lot more than i do so its possible im off base. as for cobb, it would be pretty unusual for him NOT to be a racist considering where he grew up and the time he grew up in. however, the stories from al stump seem to be exaggerated to sell books. there is a middle ground between cobb as some enlightened figure - which i find very hard to believe - and cobb as the ultimate white racist villian cariacture he was portrayed as by stump and ken burns, where be became the lightning rod for all that was bad in american society in that time period. admittedly, it is easier to see cobb as the latter more than the former. american society was cruel to black people. and that includes most of the people living at that time who we regard as great americans. your lincolns, your jeffersons, your roosevelts. all of em.

givony does now. rich paul is his agent and lebron james is his dad, he's definitely going to get picked by someone.

that's a really good point. i wouldnt count those either, but as long as they do it lends a little consistency to counting negro league statistics.

but they were banned and they didnt get the records in major league baseball. so the records are not major league baseball records. celebrate the negro leagues for being the negro leagues: a unique achievement in america's black community, forged out of exclusion from white society. its a great accomplishment for them and a great shame on america's past. but they werent major league baseball. you dont have to elevate them to something they were not because of america's history of racism. and that's all this is. plenty of japanese/asian players come to america and are exceptional, including the current best player in the game. youre telling me that the japanese didnt have players who could have done the same earlier? many japanese players did well against american barnstormers throughout history, so by your logic they would have done just as well in the major leagues. so their records should count as major league records too. sadaharu oh is now the major league leader in home runs.

i am not being contrarian to sound smart, i disagree with what theyre doing for the reasons already stated. they didnt achieve their numbers playing major league baseball, so their numbers should not count as major league baseball records. its quite simple. theyre stretching the truth to "right an historical wrong." i dont think it does anything to right that wrong and i dont think they should stretch the truth. reasonable minds can differ.

ok.

https://www.mlb.com/news/ty-cobb-history-built-on-inaccuracies-c178601094

it doesnt right a wrong.

how do you know the japanese leagues were not major league quality? the negro leagues were glorified barnstorming leagues for many years. yes, they were of an inferior overall quality and the records kept were much spottier than in the mlb. not sure what your last sentence is for, but in a way it encapsualtes why this change was made: because society wronged black people. ok, but to change the record books to incorporate numbers from an inferior league is silly revisionist history, imo. its like putting an asterix on barry bonds' records, like keeping pete rose out of the hall of fame. its done to put a moralistic spin on the past and proclaim virtue in 2024.

should we incorporate japanese league statistics into major league records too? how about mexican league statistics? this is just an attempt to retroactively right a wrong that cannot be corrected. the negro leagues were not "major league baseball" and cannot - and should not - be counted as major league baseball equivalent statistics.

i'd take him over reed sheppard.

i'm not taking a dude at 5 who is that small and that unathletic. yeah, he jumps high at the combine, but he cant move side to side. he wont be able to stay in front of nba guards. i dont see it. he's tj mcconnell. he's marcus sasser. he's not a top 5 pick. please give me taller. please give me the ability to drive and score. or please give me defense. you see what i did there? i just guaranteed he's the next mark price. youre welcome reed.

now show me jimmer fredette's colleg numbers.

never change, kat. never change. "Towns, who was benched for nearly the last nine minutes of the Wolves' Game 2 loss, is now shooting 27.8% for the series. That mark is the fourth-worst field goal percentage by any player through the first three games of a conference or divisional finals in the shot clock era, according to ESPN Stats & Information. His 3-point shooting, extending back to the conference semifinals against the Denver Nuggets, has also been unprecedentedly poor. Towns is 4-for-32 (12.5%) on 3s in his past five games, which is the worst 3-point percentage over a five-game span among players with 30 or more 3-point attempts in NBA postseason history."

that was vintage playoff kat in the first half. soft, missing threes, refusing to take contact and settling for fadeway jumpers.