sabretooth
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They also get burned every time they jump into the drafting and developing of players to fix their problems. They also get burned every time they jump into the trading of players to fix their problems. I think their problem may be with the people who are doing the jumping into things, not the things that they are jumping into.
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I am getting really tired of all of our Detroit sports teams sucking forever. Its been a long time since we could expect or reasonably hope for one or (forbid!) two of our teams to be a contender.
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Yeah, definitely.
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After 7 years of abject failure to build anything resembling a functioning farm system (assuming you absolve AA for the state of the farm system when he became GM), or to draft/develop ANY top-100 positional talent or even average positional players (excluding the two tank picks Tork and Greene), or to win beyond the 2016 team's modest 86 win season. If you cannot fire a GM like this at this point, you really should not own a team.
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I was fine not getting Correa (I would have loved him for the price Minn. paid!) but I would have been happier with Story vs. Baez. Baez is hitting sooooo badly, even with the NL to AL switch issue factored in, it's insane.
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Great analogy.
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I don't disagree, there aren't seemingly good options, but they have to make some moves nevertheless, even if it's just temporary in nature. Having the entire IF tanking for 60+ games like this is just beyond. Consider Baez. He had several bad stretches last year of 60-80 PAs, but even in those stretches he maintained a decent hard-hit + barrells pct and hit 7 HRs during those 150 PAs. This year he has failed to hit the ball with any authority. That seems to be the story with every flyball hitting Tiger this year. The only guys who have been OK are guys who don't hit flyballs. Miggy, Harold, and Reyes. If the new (old) ball is causing the problem for mediocre FB hitters, then the Tigers are kind of stuck. They invested a league-average payroll and top tank picks in the key players that they have, they have failed to develop any position players after many years of Avila's control, and even Dombrowski himself would have a challenge to make good deals out of this. And we all know that Avila is no Dombrowski in terms of milking a trade. I was feeling pretty good as of Saturday, after they had won 14 out of their last 25 games with terrible hitting and their rotation wiped out. Now, I'm really wondering what the hell is going on.
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Of the guys who were here last year, Schoop, Haase, Baddoo and Grossman are missing 23 HRs, which would increase their current output by over 50%!! And that's not including the 11 HRs that Baez is missing, or the 15 from Meadows! It has to be the ball, at least to a significant degree. This is happening to better hitters to a lesser degree all over the MLB. I realize that most of these guys have been playing all or most of their careers with the juiced 2015 - 2021 ball, so they will have to make major adjustments, but that is their only survival option at this point.
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While I don't think that Hinch is likely at all to fire Coolbaugh, nor do I think firing him would likely help the level of coaching, since the new guy would be starting from zero, and would likely be a second-rate hire (otherwise he would already be on a MLB staff), nevertheless this shocking situation requires some kind of action by Management at either a player or coaching level. I would prefer better players be brought to bear. A capable and moderatly creative GM would be pushing player personnel buttons, but our GM is not capable or creative....so here we are.
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None of this is likely to work but they will likely start pushing some buttons. I have never seen anything like this offensive drought.
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for the love of donuts.....what the hell bug has bitten this team this year?
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I guess at this rate, never. He can't be this bad, can he? I mean to fail to meet expectations is one thing, but to hit .114 at Toledo??? Did he offend Jobu? What the hell.
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Yeah, their pizza is basically cardboard with a little cheese on top. The worst! I actually thought (and still think) that they assembled a decent enough team this year to chase 500 or a slightly winning record. If someone had told me that Hinch/Fetters would build a top-5 bullpen I would have assumed they were on their way to the playoffs. What has happened with injuries is incredible, but the hitters who have been here have just mystified me with their disappearing acts. The re-boot of the pre-2015 ASB ball has to play a role in this. Beyond all of that, we are still cursed by AA's complete inability to make ANYTHING out of the farm system. He has had influence and/or control over it since 2004 and he still cannot produce a single good everyday position player beyond the tank picks. His trades and FA signings are better than they were, but no amount of wheeling/dealing short of DD's magic tricks could make this work. They need a GM who knows how to put a farm system together that WORKS.
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I wonder when Baddoo will make it back and Greene will be promoted.
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Something else, huh? And I was assured by several geniuses around here that rebuilding on the fly was impossible and that tanking for at least 5 years (preferably 7!) was the ONLY way that SMART teams rebuild. What an f'ing joke.
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Sorry for the typos, I was dictating.
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I think you're right about him not leaving, unless maybe they have a great rest of the season and he looks like a kind of turnaround expert. The injuries have just been staggering… I cannot figure out how a team has so many injuries both in pitching and in positional talent. I'm inclined to just chalk it up to bad luck at this time. Also the lack of a proper Spring training might have impacted this as well? As far as the hitting is concerned, I am inclined to attribute the league wide slowdown to a change in the baseball starting at the beginning of this season…. that's the only explanation that makes any sense to me. I think if the baseball has been dead and, my guess is that it impacts mediocre hitting teams like the Tigers Tigers more significantly.... They already had less margin for error and now hope and now home runs that were sneaking over the fence are warning track fly outs and and line drive hits are turning into soft outs. I haven't assembled any study material, but my perusing of Tigers peripherals shows a similar pct pf barrels, but hard hit ball percentages have dropped, and their home run to fly ball ratios have dropped. If I am correct in my observation, that would align with a deaden ball is a dead and ball as an explanation.
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Baddoo is still projected by 5 out of the 6 projection systems to be above average this year. I understand that he was horrible out of the gate, but his peripherals were basically the same as his projections (other than a loss of some hard-hit balls vs. last year). Grossman was due a regression (I acknowledged that about 12 times this off-season) but he has also struggled mightily. Even after Schoops 2+ week run, he has ground to a halt again with season-to-date totals that are just awful. He looks terrible at the plate. Baez, I realize he's in the NL-to-AL shift year, but gads, can't he hit at all? Candy is streaky but he's not supposed to hit like Buddy Biancalana. Tork is having rookie struggles...his peripherals are pretty promising, but he has simply not hit the ball with authority or power. Meadows, ZERO homeruns....is it the deadened ball? This is just staggering to watch this offense struggle like this. Even with the deadened ball it shouldn't be like this!
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I was there today and screamed "YES!!! THANK YOU!!!" when this was flashed on the board. I had just finished a nice conversation with a Blue Jay fan about how I was still upset about this injustice.
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I agree 100% that Drafting and Development under this regime has completely sucked.
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Sorry, can you remind me of what you are saying that his eventual TJ was called at the beginning of his career....who and when? I dont doubt it, but I cannot find that.
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Yeah, I agree with this. He may be young enough to figure things out, but he pretty much sucks as an MLB player this time in his career.
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Harold, Schoop, and Tork have carried this offense for the last 3 weeks -- it's been a brutal offense, but these three have done their part with very good numbers over that stretch. Harold looks like a more complete hitter...elevates the ball effectively, more realistic/sustainable numbers with some pop.....23% LDs instead of 30+, with a corresponding increase in FB and HR/FB, based off of higher LA and barrels. I feel confident that he can be a pretty good hitter on a semi-regular or even everyday basis for the rest of this season. Cabrera has been below average but OK-ish.....Daz has been below average but not as brutal as the rest of the lineup.... .....Tucker, Haase, Candy, Baez....gads. I think Candy will come out of it soon, and I wouldn't be surprised to see Haase do decently or even get hot as well. Tucker and Baez are probably suffering from the NL to AL thing. Hopefully they snap back to hit normally before the ASB. Oh, and while I'm happy to see Willi not striking out as much, he is just not cutting it. He's only 25, but I just can't see him being a useful piece unless he takes a huge and unexpected leap forward.
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I just cannot see Willi holding a roster position for an entire season. Not enough power, not enough on-base, not enough singles, not enough defense anywhere.
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Since starting 10-23, they have gone 11-7, a 99 win pace.... ....if they keep up this pace, they would finish with 89 wins.... ....and this 11-7 stretch has been with like a dozen players injured. I think right now the over/under is about 80 wins. If they get really healthy and stay there, I think it goes up to 85 wins. If they continue to get hammered by injuries, the over/under could be more like 70, or worse.
