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I have seen him touted as someone with the potential for immense power (e.g. 70/70 raw power at fangraphs). I have no scouting skills, but he strikes me as me more of a line drive hitter with pretty good power rather than elite power. Just watching his at bats, I would guess that his hit skill is better than his power.

It's completely different from minor league pitching which is why most young hitters fail initially and many never figure it out. I'm not being critical of his performance. It's just that the ballpark excuse sounds lame.

Yes, I don't want hear excuses. Keith isn't hitting the ball hard like he supposedly did in the minors. I thought one of his best assets was supposed to be his power.

I don't think Henning said it. Keith did.

Tork! First of 40!

I don't know who Benjamin Crump is.

He has been a disappointment so far, but would you be disappointed if he turned out like Tony Clark who accumulated almost all of his WAR with the Tigers?

Thr question was not 0 WAR, but 13 WAR like Deer. Tony Clark was in the same class.

He isdisappointing individuslly so far, but when you rely primarily on a bunch of high draft picks to re-build, you can expect to be disappointed by one or more of them. Mize has a long way to go too. Green is certainly looking like someone who will give them a high WAR return and Skubal is already a steal for a 9th round pick.

Thanks, you are turning into my go to guy in this thread.

The average career WAR for picks 1-5 is 13.3. The average WAR for the #1 pick is probably higher (can't find a recent #) but it's also likely inflated by a small number of elite players and so far there doesn't appear one of those from the 2020 draft. So, I would agree with Oblong that I'd be mildly disappointed if Tork ended up like Rob Deer, but it wouldn't be outside the expected performance for a high pick. Tony Clark was another one like that. https://content.iospress.com/articles/journal-of-sports-analytics/jsa200586

I can barely hear what Gibson is saying anymore. ☹️ Still way better than Monroe though.

Now, do Dean Palmer. Palmer vs Deer is one of my favorite comps, but everyone seems to think that Deer was a joke and that Palmer was OK.

It depends on who you follow. I don't follow many people like that but sometimes they show up in the reponses to those I do follow. Hinch too.

They might still be good because the Harris and Hinch administration seems to be skilled at acquiring and getting the most out of their pitchng. I agree that pitching staffs are fleeting though and when you have a good one, you need to try to take advantage of it.

Yes, 21st century managers use advanced stats. That shipped sailed a long time ago.

The manager gets a one year homeymoon. In Hinch's first year, he was a genius who could do no wrong. Now, each year he gets dumber and dumber. It was the same with Leyland.

Don't listen to Gehringer_2. He don't know what he talking about.

If MTS managers managed the Tigers, they would be in first place. Fire AJ Hinch!

Now that he's getting protection from Tork, he should get going.

Slugging Andy Ibanez is batting second, so he can drive home Greene.

He will, but he won't be huge all by himself. They need multiple hitters to improve.

In most line-ups, it would not make sense to bat Ibanez leadoff even against lefties. The Tigers line-up is not most line-ups. One thing about Hinch is he doesn't manage his roster based on hunches, but rather data.

I see them as a .500 team. Their pitching staff is as good as their hitting is bad. I was thinking at the beginning of the season that they could be a contender in a weak division, but so far it's not looking so weak.

I was thinking 10% walk rate which is around what you'd expect for him. I don't think there is a big correlation between strikeout rate and walk rate. It's not uncommon for hitters to have high strikeout and also high walk rates. They don't put the ball in play, so they see a lot of pitches and a pitcher without control might walk them.