Jason_R

How does the NFL discover the identity of the players who made bets? Does the NFL supply private identifying information about all NFL players to the sports books and require monthly reports on betting activity as a condition of partnerships with the NFL? Are the players reported by earnest whistleblowers at the sports books who are concerned about the integrity of the NFL?

https://www.nhl.com/flames/news/2023-nhl-draft-class---nate-danielson/c-344639570 That’s the message of this article.

The real question is how it came to light that these particular players broke the rules. Does the NFL get live, real-time updates of every NFL player who makes a bet, and have a well-developed process for validating that these bets were really placed by NFL players and that they really broke NFL rules? Or did they just happen to find out that some Detroit Lions players made some bets then did some digging and found out these bets broke NFL rules? Probably this latter case, but if so, who told the NFL that Lions players were betting? Not that I'm cynical about the purity of intentions of people who work in sports gambling, but a lot of money was going on the Lions to win the NFC North, the NFC, and even the Super Bowl. Undoubtedly the odds changed as a result. Could I imagine someone at a sports book making wagers on inside information about something like this, betting the other side of it, then leaking the inside information? Yes, I could imagine it.

I wonder if the NFLPA can file a grievance on behalf of the players... who didn't bet on their own sport or team. PS: I've heard chatter that Jaymo placed bets at a hotel while with the team but I don't know if this is confirmed or accurate.

https://whoradio.iheart.com/content/2023-06-05-nfl-investigating-player-for-pervasive-gambling-bets-on-own-team/?Sc=editorial&Keyid=socialflow&Pname=local_social Colts player. Allegedly bet on his own team.

Yes, every team says they got the players they wanted, but not every war room erupts in unison like they have in the Brad Holmes era. Of course we won’t be able to rate this draft for a while. The draft value folks may turn out to be right. Or it may turn out that “their guys” became “their guys” based on group think. But I haven’t seen any evidence that the staff is anything but elated with the players they got.

Lions say they got four of the 14 players they had rated as first round talents. https://www.si.com/nfl/2023/05/15/2023-nfl-schedule-release-cowboys-chiefs-jets-foster-moreau

I agree the NCAA is going to look the other way as long as it can. But Kirby Smart does not have control of his program. Maybe when one of his kids kills a pedestrian in a UGA vehicle someone will do something.

Oh come on. It was apparently well known to the cops that UGA players and staff were regularly racing. Now we find out that a 24-year old staffer has access, well after the hours when any legitimate business could be conducted, to a car leased by the football program. Might as well give a pyromaniac matches and gasoline.

It's already looking worse. "The car [driven by LeCroy] had been leased by the athletic department." Lack of institutional control? "Sarchione Auto Group, which signed Carter to an NIL deal and provided him with a 2021 Jeep Cherokee Trackhawk, was also named in the complaint." What could go wrong with NIL?

Hey, I'm already panicking about Gibbs's ankle.

At this point, is it a disappointment if the Lions don’t tie their 12-win season in 1991?

Looks like four in prime time not including thanksgiving and a couple that could be flexed. The NFL is all in on Dan Campbell.

They kind of are though. The place where they have the least depth is DT. So they got a DT.

If he makes the team, Martin would end up being one of the 15-20 biggest players in the NFL. And Holmes seems to believe he has unusual athleticism for his size. It seems like Holmes paid too much and drafted him too soon, but he’s filling roles now, not gaping holes. No need to take fliers on sixth rounders who are going to get cut.

The 2023 Lions could become the new greatest show on turf.

Exactly. And head to head Seattle proved on the field it was the better team. Maybe someday they will use power rankings for tiebreakers instead of head to head results, but according to the NFL’s rules, and on the field, Seattle was the better team last year. I think Detroit will beat Seattle this year (at Ford Field) and I certainly don’t think Seattle will score 48 on Detroit again. The only point I’m making, though, is that it is foolish to assume that Detroit is categorically better than Seattle.

Then why did the NFL’s rules allow Seattle to go to the playoffs and not Detroit?

Woulda coulda shoulda. Seattle was a better team than Detroit last year. They arguably had a better draft than Detroit this year. I think most people would put Detroit’s free agent haul over Seattle’s but the Seahawks added a lot of defensive talent. Detroit may end up being better than Seattle this season, but any ranking that has Detroit in a tier above Seattle simply can’t be taken seriously.

All of this talk about career trajectory and Goff being more likely to succeed thank Geno reminds me of a bowler trying to control the path of his ball by leaning back and forth. They’ll play the games they play and have the seasons they have. But Seattle had a better season last year that Detroit and they may have had a better draft than Detroit.

Martin remains a head scratcher. Gibbs was not a surprise (since I read Charlie Campbell) but there is always the possibility of your RB getting dinged. OTOH, if he and Jaymo can get on the field at the same time for a few seasons with Johnson as OC, this may be the new greatest show on turf. You can probably pencil in Jack Campbell as the anchor of the LB corps for a decade. Tell me when he is going into the team’s ring of honor that they picked him five slots too early.

Still Geno Smith put up 48 points on Detroit in their last contest. I don’t expect that to happen again, but Detroit is not the only team who drafted players and signed free agents.

Yeah, until proved otherwise on the field, Seattle is better than Detroit. They may have had a better draft than Detroit too.

Yes, he was BPA. And they were able to trade back a few times and still get him. I wasn’t thrilled with the pick but I’m not sure there was a clear difference maker they could have taken other than him.

Now we have two QBs on prove it deals! And two QBs who can teach each other lessons.