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Thanks. As you're admitting here that you're inferring on my words I'll let you take up the discussion with someone who actually holds the views you're inferring to me.

Likewise, I also never said they were OK. Who said they were OK in order to initially phrase the question to me as "Ok too"?

Yes, I was asking for clarification for your words because I like to respond to what is posted. I'm still interested in whether you think they're OK

I don't think those are OK. I also don't think the ones are against Jewish folks are OK either. Do you think they're ok? You said "OK too" which seems to suggest there are some you think are OK for which we add to.

I would be interested to read something about his recent transformation. My most lasting memory of him is during the Mueller hearing where he was trying to defend Trump but inadvertendly led Mueller to say that he could charge Trump with crimes after he leaves office.

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OK, thanks for clarifying on the rules. I don't share your assessment otherwise.

Bro. I appreciate the advice, but I'm ok with it. If you think I'm breaking the rules I apologize, that is not my intent.

Ah yes more convenient inferences on what I posted. Just what I was hoping for! We don't have enough of those! At least you have the stones to admit you took liberty with my words unlike the other posters here I responded to what you actually said. You now admit you responded to what you inferred I said. I trust that you see the difference but I don't think you'll admit the obvious difference because some people like drama.

And you apparently love to be the liar.

OK rad drama-generating hypothetical but here in this actual real thread of posts you posted, you did accuse me of leaving out what you called the biggest reality. It's been quoted and bolded. I'm sorry that you posted something you didn't intend to post, so you can just say sorry and move on but some like drama

Now that we have clearly established by quoting and bolding your post that you were in fact, accusing me of this - let's dig a little deeper. You say this is the "bigggest" reality - I would argue it's absolutely not bigger reality than the hypothetical person (who actually has thousands of real life examples) family being in danger. It may be equal reality but not bigger, both are equally real.

Here's where you literally accused me.

You literally said I left that out. It was an accusation. You gp ahead and take comfort in misrepresenting both mine and your own posts as if I cant read.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/11/01/politics/ken-buck-will-not-seek-reelection/index.html Ken Buck quote: “Our movement has always been fueled by immutable truths about human nature individual liberty and economic freedoms,” the Colorado Republican said in his video announcement. “The Republican Party of today, however, is ignoring self-evident truths about the rule of law and limited government in exchange for self-serving lies.”

It's amazing how much the senate sucks.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/11/01/tuberville-military-promotion-hold/ Senate Republicans erupt in anger over Tuberville’s military freeze

Yeah, I read an article that said he is now blocking individual votes where he was previously saying he wouldn't do that. Ernst and Sullivan are pissed off at him. I think tuberville stunt will be done soon.

Oh you accused me of leaving that out but now you're talking about not me so I'll let you take that up with the not me's.

That canary mission account that's been mentioned here has more video of the Harvard event, and they claim the edtaritor of Harvard Law Review is part of the mob. It seems like the extended video is the 15 seconds we've already seen then it abruptly cuts to what I think is a phone being held by the victim in the minutes preceding the mob. He seems to be trying to cut through the courtyard area and they keep holding up the textiles and saying "exit", redirecting him around. He repeatedly tells people not to touch him and not to grab him and you can hear others in the background yelling at people not to touch him.

Oblong it seems like you're arguing that Israel's response is because of an act of war perpetrated on them. I agree with that. Likewise, why couldn't the behavior of the people in that unverified Harvard video be because of that as well, like I've been arguing?

I don't think that part was left out, it's mutually agreed upon by all posters involved in this discussion.

Regarding Rashida Tlaib: I don't have the slightest idea whether she is antisemitic, in her heart. What I mean by that is that I don't know whether she hates Jewish people b/c they're Jewish (I get that isn't the universe of antisemitism but what I'm going with). I give her the benefit of the doubt on it. What I do think is she has generations of her family in the West Bank and it's probably unrealistic to expect someone who's family has been at war with Israel for a long time to not hate Israel. As 84 posted, in a war, countries/peoples have the right to defend themselves and there will be innocent casualties because of that right. So if innocent casualties are "acceptable" (for lack of better words) under actions of war, hating your enemy in that war is far less troubling, is it not? Isn't that almost a basic prereq for going to war? 84, please correct me if I put words into your mouth you don't want, definitely not my intention.

I sat and watched a bunch of boomers accuse Ilhan Omar of being anti-semitic for saying "all about the benjamins". Anyone who's heard a rap song from 2000 forward knows what she meant. Easy to accuse

People here in the last few days have been castigating folks for ignoring these events... folks are looking the other way at anti-semitism. Given you seem to be suggesting these events were happening before the war as indicated in the bold, but those same people currently castigating were ignoring those events at that time... or at least not posting here about it. What's the difference? While it doesn't take anything to display antisemitism, as you mention, it also doesn't take much to accuse folks of it when it very well may not be that.