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Well he was selected by a committee, not the writers

A floor without a cap is terrible. Will just lead to bad contracts that hamper franchises or overpaying one young player and limiting free agency.

Love this McCarthy equals junk where as everyone loves garbage…despite their careers being identical

Any massive extension is almost always done during spring training, wouldn't worry about timing. https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/9111981/justin-verlander-detroit-tigers-agrees-deal-which-worth-202-million-sources https://www.mlb.com/news/detroit-tigers-announce-eight-year-extension-for-miguel-cabrera-c70257040 https://www.mlb.com/news/vladimir-guerrero-jr-blue-jays-extension https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/30920472/14-years-340-million-make-fernando-tatis-jr-mega-extension-san-diego-padres

i think you're digging your head in the sand if you think they are non issues. They are the constant issues, and remain big, and any one let alone the wide gaps on multiple is why people fear a work stopage. Take salary cap for example, its been discussed. But now more owner want it because of crumbling RSN (something that didnt exist in the last few years) and they cant keep up with the Dodgers and Mets of the world. Paying players more sooner will also be a factor but owners will want to tie that to some sort of cap, which the players will hate. While they have bene tweeaked they are still major issues with wide gaps between the sides and major current and future financial factors at play. To think there is no large issue that should lead to an impasse is being obtuse and aware of the current labor situation.

I dont know if there will or not But just off the top of my head Salary Cap international draft free agency Service time Decreasing TV money on the horizon are all huge issues that could easily divide the sides into a long dispute. Thats not to mention there are plenty of reports on about how the association has its only problems between the haves and have nots and who to favor in any negotiating.

So, any Sukbal news?

What your talking about is different than "importance." You are talking likelhood. Its not important we resign Marcus at all. A million veteran DE are out there, and its not important to resign a guy who barely played for us.

Yeah but with zeitler they might have been a playoff team, and if we won the Super Bowl nobody would have cared about having an extra 7 million in this years free agency. Can’t just portray it as well we don’t sign this guy so we could have more space in 2026, could that be the right move? Maybe. But there is more to it than you present. and we signed the top corner cause we lost a top corner. So it’s not like we were actively upgrading much, more of a replacement. Again context matters.

No winning accomplishes absolutely nothing. Lower pick, harder schedule

I think a lot of this post lacks context. Williams played, but had a 1 TFL all year. He made very little impact and seemed like a luxury pic at the time. Ratledge is fine. TeSlaa was burried at fourth on the depth chart all year, and while he had a couple catches, its the problem of drafting a 4 wr development project, and trading up for one, when again there were other needs. The rest dont matter becuase the same could be said for pretty much any 4-7th pick on any team. Thats why people call it a failure. Little impact and when given context its gets worse.

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Yikes Minnesota is “terrible” too

Good throw Jared

Yeah but if you’re just using them for depth, which is what I was saying sign a ring chase to be corner 5 instead of a cheap 6th round pick, it doesn’t matter as much. They wouldn’t be playing early and wouldn’t get injured quickly they would be the fill in when that can 2 does get hurt instead of relying on an untested guy. But we don’t have or add those guy instead we rely on the vildor of the world.

That seems to be the thing they need to figure out. Do we have more than others? If so why? Is it something that can be fixed is it dumb luck? Part of me would like them to sign a few more veterans who are ring hunting. They might not be the most perfect scheme fit but they can play at a nfl level and can often plug in better than a 6th round guy.

What was I wrong about? That I don’t think someone should be evaluated on a career or talent because they once appeared in a championship? Sorry don’t think Robert Horry is better than Charles Barkley either. its fine you can be angry with me, I don’t care lash out. I and other questioned if this was a playoff team weeks ago, you assured us then posted that quote. Clearly I was right on that one. So got at least one right. but as I said lash out if you need someone to angry at, it’s just a message board and I don’t care nearly enough to be bothered by it. go back to telling everyone how great Goff is and how great this team is when most reasonable people can see there are warts on both that need to be fixed.

And Goff still has taken us to fewer Super Bowl than grossman. But hey hang your hat on that he is great because he went to one with another team.

“You get a lot wrong so it is just you.”

Rip 2025

Its all so ESPN has time to talk about the previous pick and the next pick, while allowing teams a little bit of time to make a trade and add excitment. All for a bit of sizzle to a honestly boring on its face event.

It almost always is unless you have oodles of money.

Yes the stats say it is. Because while yes picking fift hmight mean half with less than a 0 war, but that means half are better. It also means at pick six, seven, eight, 14 that rate goes up even higher. So its 51 percent (just pulling out of my tail for discussion) at pick six that fail, in the aggregate form. The stats say pick as high as possible because that is your best chance to get that team controlled superstar. And the best chance is to pick as high as possible. If you get that superstar its improve your odd of winning in year 5 and 10 and not still be stuck in the mud. And other studies on attendance have show there is really only significant different between massive winning and massive losing. Losing 89 instead of say 96, does almost nothing to improve attendance. The only real attendance swings happen if a team goes from signficant winning to losing in a year or two or visa versa. So its not really losing revenue or interest to say lets lose 106 instead of 99, 91, or 85. But again its just in theory no team or player is actively gonna go try to lose. For me its just an argument of in a lost year I'd rather have hte best odds to get better in the future than win an extra game or two and miss out on that superstar for just some instant gratification that isn't even that cause its still a bad team.

Cause the general overall ideas is bared out by stats. The higher you pick, the more likely you are to find a player that puts up a better career. "First round draftees had greater average career WAR compared to Rounds 2 to 20.Collectively, the first five picks had greater WAR versus picks grouped 16 through 30." https://www.researchgate.net/publication/358010336_Major_League_Draft_WARs_An_Analysis_of_Wins_Above_Replacement_in_Player_Selection Of course there is wide variance and there is no fool proof strategey. Some top picks in baseball bust, there are late round gems, just like any other sport. But the best way to find, afford and control top tier baseball is through the draft and the best chance to get that kind of guy is still by picking as high as possible.

Yes rebuilding is a necessary part. Nobody has been good for 100 years