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Flaherty isn't a building block unless he agrees to a four year deal tomorrow. You flip those guys for help.

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Carson kelly hitting cleanup...so this year is going great

5th pick yes!

Cool, so my point stands I guess. You keep talking about I want/would've traded down. It takes two teams to trade. You can't just move down because you want to, it takes a team to move up it takes a fair offer. In this crazy weak draft that was gonna be hard to come by. It isn't as easy as saying oh he owuld have been then at 9 I would have just traded down.

Again, it takes two to trade.

Who is gonna trade up?

Yes crazy how people can change thier mind based on evidence.

No reason. Langdon is the decider. Think Scott harris. he didn't hire a GM for a year.

Rebuilding is not a dirty word. And Carpenter and Skubal are luck nothing more or nothing less. To say there is no value in drafting high because you got lucky is foolhardy. Studies have shown time and time and time again far more Hall of Fame level players are drafted high than found randomly in some late round, no matter the sport. and the average war of guys to make the majors out of round 1, is nearly 7. For every other round its not even half that. Of course there are plenty of exceptions such as Carpenter and Skubal. But, to dismiss being bad and say being average still means you can build a championship level club though the draft is not backed up by stats or reasonable strategy.

Why in the world would you tell him he will pay full amount?! LA would them offer him a contract for a buck then knowing they don't have to pay a damn cent.

Sure if you ignore all the data.

Nobody holds press conferences to announce a poor employee has been fired. Ever. You also said you know how it works, but then went on a rant about said and how it's made to look - which is why press releases are sent out. That's 101. And a press release doesn't mean there will never be a press conference ever. Organizations frequently do this. Announce something via release and then take questions later. You see it all the time with hires or trades. And nobody does it when a former president is convicted of 34 felonies cause nobody cares. You may have worked in corporate leadership, whatever that is, this is literally my field I pretty sure I know how all this works and why.

ummm thats how press releases work. the literal definition of them.

This is just a silly comparison. Like really silly. Monty came in and played terrible players over rookies. He had terrible rotations and in game management. So what he was good last year, he was awful this year. We have no Mahomes or Kelce and anything we have close wasn't hurt.

in other news, we can't win repeat games

That's what it is. Just think about it. Goffs' cap hit right now IA about 20 percent of total cap. In 2027 or whatever when it's 60 the cap will likely be at 310 or higher...still 20 percent. That's why in a cap league you almost always backload them.

Yeah cause lottery luck has been so great...

Play in team gets number 1. Team that has had the word record over a three year span hasn't picked higher than 5. I mean it's not like winning this lottery would have been all the great, but this is why many casual pistons have ditched the nba. Are terrible and there is no hope whatsoever of getting better. At least when the Lions and tigers sucked they picked high.

Correct. But not a problem system at all.

The never ending cycle continues. Not picking high enough to get good. Not good enough to get out of thr lottery.

Cool we can sign some teams 8th guy to a cumbersome contract that eats up space and provides 4 more wins. All is solved! (there is nobody to spend it on, who you know, is good. There better? Yes lets run out to sign Tobias Harris he's the piece we're missing for a 3 seed and a shot of a championship.) Yes that would be a problem. Losing a first round pick and being unable to trade any because of it hanging there would be a lack of assets. The pistons have 15 picks in the foreseable future through 2030. The Wizards have 28. The Hornets 17. Trail Blazer 19. Spurs 35 etc. See the problem here? We have far less draft assets than other teams at the bottom. Those assets are used to add young players or package together to add an established player. We have less than other bad teams. So will other teams. And they will have assets to move around if they really want Flagg and miss out. We, don't, its all about ping pong balls and another year down the train, another year closer to cade leaving. This is just a rose-Pistons-everything-is-going-great way of looking at it. We don't have a star. Cade looks good, he's made zero all star teams or done anything meaningful. Seems on the upswing but can we call him a star? Daft capital...except not really. Cap space....wooo to add nobdoy! no bad contracts! cool that can actually be a bad thing for a team on teh rebuild where a cap floor is requried. Nothing to tear down! Woo that means no assets to replenish what you have. Owner willing to spend! Yes in a capped league that's great. I'm not saying everybody should say no. There are only 30 jobs out there. But, come on you can't call it attractive. Troy has driven it into the ground, so far that even the world's greatest GM is going to take years to just reach compentent let alone fighting for a playoff spot. It not a good opening because you're already coming in knowing your going to be saddled with losing and after three or four years of it, no matter where you start from, the seat starts getting hot.

It's not attractive at all. There is cap space, but nobody worth spending on. There are no building blocks, outside of cade, in players or draft assets. The only hope is to get crazy lucky in draft with the little you do have and land a superstar out of nowhere. Then you can have something to build with. The more likely outcome is a slow rebuild where the pistons buy draft picks for bad contracts and in four years hope to have some talent just in time for Cade to bounce when he's tired of 10 years of losing and when you have 200 loses on your resume.

its just short term. These drops have all the time. It's over carriage fees. The sides work it out, usually within a week.