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So good they haven't won anything. This place loves the Rays more than anything when really they've had no more success than us in the dombrowski days.

paredes maybe. but no reason to give up prospects for a 32 year old .08 war guy, with one year outlier, who is a free agent in 18 months

5 innings 5k 5 walks A new league record

Blake snell says hello

Ok that's not the same as if he 'pan out'

For about the hundreth time. The trade was awful given what we know. But at the time it was regarded and everybody demanded money to take JV because he had some bad stretched before the last half a season before the trade. You take four prospect with the hope one or two turn out to be all-star since the guy your trading is either gonna leave or is old. If they traded Skubal is because its unlikely we are gonna win next year and you think Holliday is gonna be a four WAR player very soon.

Prospects have how much ML time? Skubal has how much? I think skubal has proven he is a major league pitcher.

wouldn't think that high. Other teams see the same problems we do

That doesn't happen a ton for first round guys anymore. They lost a ton of leverage. Teams know if they don't they just get the same pick next year and none of the top HS guys really want to go to college anyway and put it all at risk.

and? They will still be in lakeland no? They will still be years away from competiting no? The bust rate of picks is till fairly high no? The chances the White Sox will look the same in 1 years, 2 or 4 years is extremly low no?

Worrying about which side of the plate some guy at lakeland hits is beyond silly

Flaherty isn't a building block unless he agrees to a four year deal tomorrow. You flip those guys for help.

Hello

Carson kelly hitting cleanup...so this year is going great

5th pick yes!

Cool, so my point stands I guess. You keep talking about I want/would've traded down. It takes two teams to trade. You can't just move down because you want to, it takes a team to move up it takes a fair offer. In this crazy weak draft that was gonna be hard to come by. It isn't as easy as saying oh he owuld have been then at 9 I would have just traded down.

Again, it takes two to trade.

Who is gonna trade up?

Yes crazy how people can change thier mind based on evidence.

No reason. Langdon is the decider. Think Scott harris. he didn't hire a GM for a year.

Rebuilding is not a dirty word. And Carpenter and Skubal are luck nothing more or nothing less. To say there is no value in drafting high because you got lucky is foolhardy. Studies have shown time and time and time again far more Hall of Fame level players are drafted high than found randomly in some late round, no matter the sport. and the average war of guys to make the majors out of round 1, is nearly 7. For every other round its not even half that. Of course there are plenty of exceptions such as Carpenter and Skubal. But, to dismiss being bad and say being average still means you can build a championship level club though the draft is not backed up by stats or reasonable strategy.

Why in the world would you tell him he will pay full amount?! LA would them offer him a contract for a buck then knowing they don't have to pay a damn cent.

Sure if you ignore all the data.

Nobody holds press conferences to announce a poor employee has been fired. Ever. You also said you know how it works, but then went on a rant about said and how it's made to look - which is why press releases are sent out. That's 101. And a press release doesn't mean there will never be a press conference ever. Organizations frequently do this. Announce something via release and then take questions later. You see it all the time with hires or trades. And nobody does it when a former president is convicted of 34 felonies cause nobody cares. You may have worked in corporate leadership, whatever that is, this is literally my field I pretty sure I know how all this works and why.