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Yes they are. They aren't the Lakers, Celtics or Bulls but they've had extended championship runs in the modern era (1980-present), not many franchises can boast that. They were a winning team (45+ win team) from 84-92, 95-96 then 02-08 with 3 Championships and 5 Finals appearances so I'd say that they've been a top 5 NBA franchise from 1980-2010 pre-Gores. If you talk all time then maybe that's a different story but the NBA was also a lot different prior to the merger.

There are none outside of trading core players. The 1st is on freeze for the sake of getting the pick to trade Isiah Stewart. Out of all the bad moves Weaver made, this one is the most damaging. The entire 2020 draft really.

That was pretty bad but their championship window was closed anyway and it was time to move on. That doesn't hold a candle to a clueless dimwitted owner buying the team and sewering which was once a proud franchise.

Two things that I've been saying all season still hold true. Cade deserves better and Monty is poison to this team and is the worst thing to happen to this franchise outside of the day Gores bought the team.

The difference between a lot of these guys, Hutch included, is that he has the athleticism to not only get home on the QB but to also keep him honest in terms of evading the pocket, just look at those plays he made on Fields in open space in that highlight reel. This is my biggest issue with the D-line, lack of dynamic athleticism. Even an old fart like Irvin showed in his limited snaps what kind of impact an athletic edge can have. Bringing up CJGJ also got me to thinking that people have been a little too hard on Glenn. While his schemes have certainly been questionable at times, they've missed 3 of their better defensive players pretty much the entire season in CJGJ, Houston and Moseley with a 4th in McNeil being out the last few weeks. I'm sure their pass defensive improvements were heavily dependent on not only Houston being even close to what he was last year but CJGJ and Moseley playing big roles. Without those guys, the latter two in particular, the Lions has lacked athleticism and also experience. It's been Sutton, Anzalone and a bunch of young guys still learning the game. It's no wonder why the defense is very hit and miss in the passing game in particular and a lot more miss usually.

I think some people forget how impactful Houston was last year. This is just a 6 game reel of all sorts of different ways Houston impacted the game. Insert THIS guy into the lineup and the Lions can make a real run...

We know all too well how dominant the '91 Redskins were. I was too young to remember the '85 Bears but the '91 Redskins might have been the best NFL team I've ever seen, they were untouchable that year. I think the Niners are one of the most talented teams of the last 40 years but 11-4 is hardly a sign of dominance.

Patterson is 16 of 19 from 40-49 and a perfect 6 for 6 in his Detroit career.

Patterson is better. Patterson is 88% career on FGs while Badgley is 82%. Patterson is 16 for 19 from 40-49, Badgley is 36 for 47. Patterson 3 for 6 from 50+ while Badgley is 5 for 13!!! Patteson is an average NFL kicker, it can be argued that Badgley doesn't belong in the NFL at all. It's really important to have a good kicker in the playoffs, this could be a fatal error by Holmes this season. Campbell is going to have to be even more aggressive than his usual aggressive self.

1991 but that came down to the last game when they won at, I believe, Buffalo. The Lions winning the division with games left in the season is a novelty for us Lions fans.

That's because Goff is in a much more perfect situation. Oh wait....

Having a division locked up with 2 games to go is a comforting feeling that most of us have never experienced as a Lions fan, unless anybody here is like 80 years old. Kind of surreal now that it's taken time to set in.

Patterson is better than Badgley. Love just about everything Holmes has done but his inability to properly address the kicker situation in 3 years is bizarre. It hasn't hurt them yet although one can argue that Campbell would be less inclined to take 4th quarter gambles with a better kicker but I fear that one game when they have the ball around the 35 yard line near the end of a game and lose because they can't kick 50+ yard FGs.

I could be wrong but I think the Lions win the common opponent tiebreaker if both them and the Eagles win out so the Lions just need to win the last two.

Just last year they started 1-6. They went from 4-17-1 to start the Campbell era to going 19-6 and a division title just a year later like the flip of a switch. It has to be one of the more remarkable turnarounds in league history, literally turned from losers to winners on a dime although I think most of us knew that they were better than a 1-6 team last season as there was a lot of close losses mixed in there.

Jefferson looked like... Jefferson. He might be better than Calvin tbh.

The ghost of SOL was rearing its ugly head in the last 5 minutes. Bad playcalling (what are you doing Ben Jonhson?), dumb penalties, Commish jump on the ball ffs, Jefferson with a Hail Mary catch but they extinguished that ghost somehow. After 30 years of pain, I don't care how they won it but they won it. Now lets aim for that 2 seed.

They haven't played a competitive game since before Thanksgiving. They're not only losing games, they're getting blown out every single game, this isn't just the worst team in NBA history it's the worst team in sports history and it might not be all that close. Thank god for the Lions, wait....what did I just say?

Could JEIII slob Tom's knob any harder? How embarrassing

Hey guys, stop chanting "sell the team" because they do good work in the community, you're being ridiculous getting upset with an owner of a 2-25 team and hasn't won a playoff game since 2008. They're good in the community (which makes them special I guess) so leave them alone Nand keep paying for overpriced seats to watch a completely unwatchable product. Is this guy serious with those comments? But don't worry, changes are coming. Not Monty or Troy because good ole Tom is "all over them" but maybe the janitor or one of the people that shoots T-shirts into the crowd. Changes are coming guys.

I think they might lose 77 in a row. I mean, they're not even close in these games, the Memphis, Washington and Utah games all at home were pretty much double digit losses. It's actually comically bad at this point and the sadistic side of me wants to see how far they can take this losing streak.

He really hates the media, doesn't he? He always seems agitated in media sessions, the guy is probably sick of talking and just wants to get out there and hit people.

No doubt, he's a future HOF but this is also a draft filled with great players maybe one of the best non-QB drafts of all time when all is said and done. Parsons, Sewell, Darrisaw, Slater, Dickerson, Chase, Waddle, Smith, St. Brown, Surtain, Horn, Hufanga etc. Could be 3-4 all time greats in there. I'd also like to add McNeil just to sip on more Holmes kool-aid.

I think B is hogwash. I don't think anybody expected Cade to be a LeBron or Luka. Luka-lite is what some billed him as but nobody expected him to be some generational talent that can carry a carcass of a roster to relevancy. Like 95% of the players in the league, Cade needs some help to form a winning team, he needs a robin to run with like Tatum has with Brown or Booker had with CP3 in his early years or SGA has with Williams, Dort, Chet, Banchero with Wagner (who is really underrated) etc. You know what Cade gets? Hayes who should be nowhere near a starting lineup, a rookie Ausar who can't shoot worth a damn, Stewart who should be nowhere near a starting lineup and Duren who is a putback/lob center at this point in his career and is very green still. He's had Bogey in recent games but he's like the anti-Ausar, good scorer but can't play a lick of defense. I'm sorry but who outside of the very elite players can carry that team to anything more than a few wins. Granted, the 23 game losing streak doesn't look great on Cade as one of the leaders but he's in this fight alone essentially.

And you can't even blame him for Elliott since CJGJ was the replacement plan and has been injured. Holmes best move since last deadline might very well be getting assets for Hockenson and Swift while drafting much cheaper options in Gibbs and LaPorta who are arguably better already and have more upside and executing the draft day trade to land both Gibbs and LaPorta so it's essentially Gibbs+LaPorta+lots of cap space for the next 3-4 years+better beans for Swift+Hockenson and their new contracts. Not that Swift and Hockenson aren't good players but this was a stroke of genius from Holmes.