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Get out of my head. I was also thinking that they trade up for Gibbs but into the 1st round ahead of Dallas not in the 2nd. I predict Witherspoon (I think a consensus is forming there) and Van Ness at 18 with them giving up 48+55 for 25+late pick perhaps so... Witherspoon, Van Ness and Gibbs. Not ideal but not the worst either.

Spoelstra is the best in the business and I'm not sure it's all that close. It does help when you have arguably the best clutch player in the league in Butler but that guy can coach, always squeezes the most out of his players.

A healthy Giannis and it's a different story although Miami is really tough minded. I know they lost Game 4 with him but he didn't seem quite himself.

There has been some fun games but there's not a lot of drama when you know who's winning the series. Wolves-Nuggets was fun for a few games but we knew who was winning that series, Hawks-Celtics was a fun Game 5 but it's just delaying the inevitable same with the Clippers had they pulled out Game 5. Kings-Warriors and Lakers-Grizzlies have been hugely entertaining because of close games and drama but when half the series are already decided before they begin, it's hard to get too excited for that IMO.

I think the chances of Richardson becoming a superstar are remote. QBs with that level of inaccuracy succeeding at a high level in the NFL are big outliers. I'd take the limited physical package of Young (the size outlier) with very high processing skills and accuracy over the more toolsy Richardson (the accuracy outlier) even for upside not accounting for floor. I see the upside for Young vs. Richardson as something like Brees vs. Newton. I know who I'd take between those two.

This is my issue with the NBA as opposed to other sports in the 1st round. Every year, it seems like around half the matchups are foregone conclusions either due to mismatches or injuries. There was no way the Clippers were beating the Suns with the injuries, that the Nets would beat the Sixers, Wolves over Nuggets or Hawks over Celtics (the Celtics basically gave away Game 5). The playoffs usually get better later on as the matchups even up but the 1st round is the weakest of the major sports IMO.

Goff and Ryan are multiple Pro Bowlers that led their team to a Super Bowl. Even the best prospects of all time had that level of QB as a floor, there's no guarantee that any prospect will be a perennial league MVP candidate. Stroud's ceiling is in that Goff/Ryan tier IMO, I don't see elite NFL QB upside.

Yeah, they got swindled. And 17 spots up to 6 should be more expensive than 20 spots up to 12.

My issue with the Minnesota offer is value. That's the type of offer I'd expect from a team in the mid 1st (15-18 area) but to drop 17 spots and to, on top of that, hand a QB to the Vikings I'm asking for their 2025 1st in addition. If not, I'm perfectly content staying at 6 or dealing with somebody else.

Pretty fun segment here on NFL network... Long story short. Holmes gets offers of the following... Tennessee offers #11 + #41 + 2024 2nd Minnesota offers #23 + #87 +2024 1st Houston offers #12 + #73 + #104 + 2024 2nd I believe all of Anderson, Carter and Wilson are off the board at this point. McCourty who played the role of Holmes turned down the trade offers and took Witherspoon (I'd hate that personally, not the Witherspoon pick necessarily but turning down those offers). It would be between Tennesse and Houston for me. You get more picks with Houston and that 2024 2nd could very well be a high one but two 2nds would be really enticing. The Vikings can F off with that offer.

If Stroud's floor was Goff or Ryan, he'd be a generational prospect. He's far from that. That's most likely his ceiling, a top 10 NFL QB but not an elite NFL QB. I'm using that pick as a trade chip if he drops to 6, have little interest in taking him.

It seems like somewhat of a consensus is starting to form IF rumors are to be believed, that being Young, Wilson, Anderson and Levis likely going top 4 with some rumblings of Paris Johnson going to the Cardinals at 3. Either way, again if rumors are to be believed, it seems like Stroud could quite possibly be there at 6 which creates an interesting trade down possibility.

I think there's a parallel because Carter is showing a lot of immaturity with his choices just as Jamo is. This recent incident just might reinforce that they can't afford to burn another high pick on another potential problem child. Then again, they knew about the gambling incident BEFORE meeting with Carter so maybe it won't make a difference.

I think it might because there were some red flags with him as is with these little immature moments leading up to this with the diva behavior in Green Bay, the apparent poor practice habits and the Lamar to Detroit tweet liking extravaganza. I know if I was GM, I wouldn't trust this kid to be a long term solution.

They're not picking Carter now, no chance. If they were wavering before, this puts that to rest I'd think.

It was nice to be out of SOL for a few months. It's a few months of good times that I'll never forget because now we're back. Of course it had to be Jamo of all people. The player on the Lions with the most character question marks and arguably the player they're relying on the most going forward to ignite the offense is doing more knucklehead things. This kid just feels like another "what if" in a long line of Lions "what ifs". Overreaction perhaps but he's been on thin ice as is and I'm conditioned to always think the worst as a Lions fan. Now this changes the draft strategy on multiple fronts I'd imagine. They'll probably be forced to take a receiver sooner now and I would think that Carter is completely off the board. Don't need any more bad PR or risk taking on high picks, that's for sure. Just wonderful

Fox was a successful head coach for two franchises and his work with the Giants is well documented. Apples and Oranges comparing him to Patricia. Fox is a good defensive mind and a good experienced voice to have in the ear of Glenn just like Dorsey is for Holmes.

The Warriors will win in 6. The Kings had a glorious chance to put them away with Draymond out and let them off the mat, missed opportunity.

I'll guarantee right now, and bookmark this post, that Holmes trades up. I think the most likely trade ups are back into the 1st round using the 2nds and/or into the 4th using the 5ths. He's going to consolidate those picks and go get a guy or two on his board that he doesn't think will last to his spot, plus the fact that the Lions roster is already pretty loaded as is and his propensity for trading up (wanting to trade up) historically. I think quality over quantity will be the gameplan

Vegas knows more than you might think. They were the first ones to call Walker as the favorite to go #1 and people scoffed at it then they called Banchero (don't know if you're an NBA fan) to go #1 the actual day of the draft and people were like WTF? and look who went #1. Vegas knows...something.

There's not any real scenarios that are "bad" for the Lions but I would say the most preferable are somebody 7 or lower trading up to 3 to take a QB making it a run of 4 QBs in the top 4 with Anderson or Carter guaranteed for the Lions (this seems least likely). The other is that Houston passes on a QB (ideally taking Wilson) and Indy takes Levis leaving Stroud and Richardson for the Lions to use the pick as a big trade asset or take a swing for the fences with one of the QBs (preferably the trade down). This seems to be the more likely of the two scenarios but still unlikely to happen. I think what ultimately happens is that Houston bites the bullet and takes their QB now in Stroud, Arizona takes Anderson, Indy takes Richardson, Seattle takes Carter leaving Wilson, one of the top CBs or whoever for the Lions. Not ideal but not a disastrous outcome by any means.

Campbell runs this thing. I like Johnson too but I think the impact some think will happen when losing him is grossly overstated.

Yes he was and I never understood it. Rattler was actually the most hyped and, conversely, Pickett wasn't even on the radar. Generally, I agree with what you're saying in that the next class is always better than the current one. This even goes back to the 2009 draft when I remember a good portion of Lions fans screaming for them to pick Curry over Stafford because Bradford will be better than Stafford so they can wait to draft him.

That's actually true this year although last years' class was arguably the worst ever for QBs going into the draft so not much of a bar set there.