AlaskanTigersFan

Well, hopefully tonight was the last night we see Skubal start for the ol English D. Thanks Skube for all you did for Detroit. And good luck wherever you go. Please let the prospects that come back to Detroit for you know the best places to eat......

If Skubal is starting on opening day, Illitch needs to sell the team the minute after he fires Harris. This would be the greatest catastrophe in the history of Detroit Sports. And that's saying something........

True. Hence y I put the disclaimer "Now, did I deserve it..... probably." 👍

Even more reason to do everything listed above. In this scenario, you're well under any cap that could be put in place. And it'd be a sustainable team for 4-5 years when the next wave of Tigers prospects (that are currently in Low-A or younger) are ready to come up.

Alrighty boys. Time for ATF to talk. I have been saying since last year the Tigers overplayed the year and I got FLAMED (literally 80% of you wanted me to go play in traffic of US-23 with Semi's going as fast as they could I run back an forth blindfolded until I couldn't make it across). I said going into spring training that they would suck this year and last year was a mirage. Again, I got flamed (probably 90% of you this time. I could look up the posts but my therapist says to move on). Now, did I deserve it..... probably. At one point the Tigers had a 20 game lead in the division. Now having said that, the average hitter in the lineup was something like .240/.290/400 but meh, it's all good. I hate to say I was right when legit, 90% of this board flamed me so hard, but alas here we are. Now I can tell you, that we do not need a complete teardown like some of you are calling for now. When is the last time we legit had superstars come up to the Majors? Greene and Torkelson are as close to it as can be. Before them, Cameron Maybin and Andrew Miller? Greene is a long-term piece, and he should be locked up (something like 170 mil for 8 years). Torkelson is an average first basemen and I believe he can knock in 30 annually. I'd lock him up too. Out of our lineup right now, Torkelson, Kerry Carpenter, Greene, Dingler, Colt Keith, JHM and Parker Meadows are really the only players they should keep on the roster from position players. Flaherty (I think he'll be better next year), Holton, Hurter, Melton, Mize, Keider Montero, Paul Sewald, Will Vest are the only pitchers worth a **** to keep. That's 14/25 spots on the roster, thus leaving a lot of room for improvement. This off-season, they HAVE to trade Skubal. You don't wait till the trade deadline for next year because 1.) Skubal could get hurt, 2.) You get a hell of a lot more value to a team that gets him for a full year vs a half year. Thus you trade him NOW. This off-season! Don't wait! Armchair GM here (You can stop reading here as this is the ranting part where I get off my rocker, so if you don't want to hear stupid crap from here on out, stop reading): McGonigle and Clark are going to be legit. I'm not sold on Briceno and Liranzo as everyone else is. Too early to call on Bryce Rainer. Off-season move that makes too much sense for both teams that they won't do it: Skubal to Phillies for Andrew Painter, Aidan Miller and Justin Crawford..... Makes too much sense for both teams. Even if we have to trade in someone like Hao-Yu Lee or Max Anderson...... Dave Dombrowski hates young players. His team is designed to win NOW. He's ruined every single farm system he's ever had ownership of. The Phillies are in win-now mode, and next year may be the closing window. Skubal, Wheeler, Luzardo, Nola..... Gives them the best rotation in baseball with literally only the Pirates being able to be in the same breath as them. (Maybe LAD, but really, if Skub went to the Phillies, LAD would be a distant 3rd). Trade for guys that are young/blocked on their current teams. Drew Romo (C) Col, Keaton Winn (SP) San Fran, Tyler Wells (SP) Bal ...... guys like that. Take a chance on injuries but on guys that were injured 27 or younger, not 37 or older (Tyler Wells is 31 but he'd be a #2 on most teams, but Baltimore hates him for some reason)..... Middle of next year, McGonigle, Briceno and Liranzo should be up (if the latter two aren't traded). Clark could be a late-season call-up as well. Biggest off-season move: Sign Kyle Tucker 42 mil/10 years. He will age WAY better than Skubal, and provide leadership for the team. Going into the 2026/2027 off-season, the team looks something like this: Greene - LF Clark - CF Tucker - RF Carpenter - DH Torkelson - 1B McGonigle - 2B Aidan Miller - SS Colt Keith - 3B Romo - C Bench Pieces: Rainer (he might need another year),Dingler, Crawford, JHM, Meadows Rotation Mize Painter Wells Winn Melton BP/Other Starters Vest Flaherty Holton Hurter Montero Anyone else, that makes sense. Anyone not bolded (farm system/not listed above - like Baez [yeah right - what trade value], Jake Rogers etc....) can be traded for anything. (We'd probably need some more pitching/starts so you can trade whatever you want, however you want [including flipping Crawford if you have to but rather trade Meadows if you can and keep Crawford as your #4 OF here]). So anyways. This is what the Tigers should do. If you're still reading this then you're nuts. But in a perfect world, the Tigers aren't that far off. They were a mirage late last year, and the first half of this year (I truly forgive you all for thinking I should be shot and not a true Tigers fan and hope they still sneak into the playoffs as it's always easier to say "I told you so" after the fact). Great streak but they've come back to earth since. We need guys that are .280+/.340+/450+ hitters in the lineup. Not .200/.260/.400 hitters. We can do it if Harrison is smart. It all starts with Skubal getting moved this off-season. He cannot phak this up.

He'll be 29 next season. Realistically he's in his prime for 3 more years. Really worth carrying 7 years at 40 million for a #3/4 ish starter? I dont think so. Trade him for a crapton then mvoe on.

Sorry been out a while. I'd still trade Skubal for a package around Painter. Sorry.

You good. My doctor just called cuz my blood pressure spiked ROFL.

LOL. Big difference. That'd be like Doug Fister and Tarik Skubal mixup. But U good bruh.

So, was Carlos Correa traded for free? I can't see ANY return yet from like 10 news sources......

Bruh?

I think he's been on the market. They also have Basallo waiting in the wings and just drafted two catchers with their first two picks. One of those draft picks was a College Senior who should be ready next year. If they can get something good for him, I think he could be moved. They have a lot of depth and he still has value.

Padres are looking for a Catcher. Could they pry Adley Rutschman from Baltimore? I could see them doing a Cease for Rutschman type deal and some prospects. Adley's underlying numbers show that he's do to be a monster the 2nd half of the year. Just extreme bad luck this year is producing his poor numbers...... Although I guess Joey Bart is also out there.... Will be interesting for them as I don't know too many teams that need a Catcher at the moment.

Ok. So the intent of this thread was for people to throw out trade ideas. Does anyone have any ideas of what they'd offer for anyone on my wishlist: ATF's Wishlist: - David Bednar (Pit) - Griffin Jax (Min) - Danny Coulombe (Min) - Josh Hader (Hou) - Garret Cleavinger (TB) - Louis Varland (Min) - Mitch Keller (Pit) - Royce Lewis (Min) - Phil Maton (STL) - Joe Ryan (Min) - Brendan Donovan (STL) - Shawn Armstrong (Tex) - Pete Fairbanks (TB) - Taj Bradley (TB) - Ozzie Albies (ATL)

Look at Nunez's numbers..... Thats insane. He could litterally be almost as good as Miller this year or next...... FML. Fantastic deal for A's.

De Vries could be a Bobby Witt Jr Clone..... Crazy. Even for Mason Miller. https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&type=8&sortcol=20&sortdir=default&stats=rel&pagenum=1 - According to this, Miller is ranked 29th in baseball for WAR this season..... Heck even Vest is higher than him! Lets move Vest straight up for De Vries.....

I am! Locklear could be pretty darn good though. I think if he was prospect eligible, he'd be in the top 100. But surpirsed Suarez didn't get a top 100 on the lists. Good return for them, not great. The other two pitchers could both be back end players at some point. One of them I guess could go in their BP this year.....

NM. Locklear and 2 pitching prospects.

Calling it now. Ford will be centerpiece going back.

I'd give Phillies a B+ and Twins an A. I just hope Duran doesn't blow out his arm this season.

These guys are legit prospects. I don't agree with Fangraphs on this at all. Which usually I'm one of the biggest fangraphs fans out there......

I don't even think that'd be enough..... Tait should be a starting catcher and Abel is a potential #1 (more likely #2 starter). Crazy good deal for the Twins.

Twins just got Mick Abel (92 prospect overall) and Eduardo Tait (56 prospect overall) for Jhoan Duran....... CRAZY good deal for the Twins. Absolutely crazy good deal for the Twins. If Phillies don't win the WS, Dombrowski should be fired.

I think they can afford him if they keep him in relief. He'd top out around 18 million a year (ish) if he stays a RP. If they move him to the rotation like they talked about, then we're talking 40 million + at the end. I'm sure any team that trades for him would probably want to move him to a starter.

16 Defensive Runs saved this year.... Thats, A LOT. Dude is winning games with that glove. I think defense matters more than some people think. Pitching and Defense wins championships.