Wockenfussy

Simple. The Tigers are on a pace to win 74-75 games in 2023. They won 66 in 2022. That's a gain of 8-9 wins. And that's with a lot of dumpster diving from the waiver wire, and no meaningful salary commitments from ownership so far. I'd call that an "A" or if I'm feeling grumpy (and I usually am) an "A-". I agree that much more will be learned about Scott Harris during the off-season, and it will be much clearer about how to judge his first 2 years than solely his 1st year.

If the "news" that the Tigers are inclined to hold onto Carpenter leaked from the Tigers organization, the whole story, such as it is, is that they are prepared to move him for the right offer. Honestly, there shouldn't be anyone who is untouchable on this roster for the RIGHT offer.

In the sort of rebuild the Tigers are in, it seems to me that there are two things which haven't been discussed significantly, most especially one of them. It seems obvious Scott Harris will aim to get good young players in deadline deals for E-Rod, Lorenzen, any or all of the Tigers' sought after relievers, plus possibly Baez though that seems not likely. None of those players are likely to bring an earth-shattering return which would radically increase the speed and efficacy of the rebuild. The two things it strikes me as needing to happen are: 1) a willingness for Chris Illitch to open his checkbook this offseason and aim to sign some serious, more than solid, even star players through free-agency. 2) Do not unilaterally take young players like Riley Greene, Spencer Torkelson, Colt Keith, Alex Faedo once he's healthy or really any of their other starting pitchers (again, if healthy) off of the trading block. Those are the players whom the Tigers most want to keep, yes, but those same players aren't likely to enable the club to succeed long-term, even in the AL Central. However, the return they could yield might be massive in some cases, especially Greene, and I wonder if that return, coupled with free-agency acquisitions might yield a much better, more sustainable result, faster. Surely Harris, Hinch and Illitch know that Detroit fans aren't going to support another 10 year rebuild. Or maybe Illitch takes the fan community for granted. That's within the realm of possibility too. Thoughts?

We have so much to complain about regarding the team, yet so many are complaining about the outfield wall. I think we need to redirect resources. 🙂

Now that I am dead I can say this without fear of reprisal. Why waste time predicting what is going to happen? Just let 2023 happen and be disappointed.

I don't think this is weird at all. Dead weight, or perhaps better put, players who do not fit into future plans should be traded, DFA'd, scuttled, cut loose, whatever to the largest and fastest degree which is practical.

1)A 14-team playoff is the worst possible change which can come from the negotiations. 2)The draft lottery makes little sense as a #1 pick isn't a near sure thing as in football or basketball. 3) I prefer no DH, but I recognize that's not realistic. If MLB goes full DH, let it evolve as it will, including not limiting the number of AB's a player can have as DH. Results will determine how that "position" plays out over time. 4) Reality is that unless and until the owners and players both recognize the game requires a fully-empowered independent commissioner who represents the best interests of the game instead of one side or another, the game can't be as good as it can be. Not even close. 5) As a subset of #4, 1-2 years after Bud Selig passes away, MLB will pass an asterisk ruling regarding key records broken during the steroid era, i.e., taking aways the McGwire, Bonds and Sosa records, and restoring Henry Aaron as the Home Run king. Why not before Selig passes? Because Manfred and the owners care more about the legacy of their own than they do about the integrity or legacy of the game. Which is why the game urgently needs #4.

What Timmitch55 said. How does anyone turn down 10 years, $275 Million? And what does that say about them? With less leverage than before that offer was made and declined, Correa may wind up with less.