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I learned yesterday I had been pronouncing Bruschetta wrong.

24 minutes ago, Stanley70 said:

One my least favorite actors attempts at another accent was Al Pacino in Scarface. Even when i was like 18 and should have liked that movie i didn't because he came accross as so fake.

That's when he became a caricature of himself.  The only movie of his after that where I can take him seriously was Sea of Love and I assume that's because it is a throwback to his 70's work.  Seriously.... that movie was good.  Saw it at the time, no big deal. Just another movie duruing a great era of movies.  Watched it again a few years ago and it's a banger.  Nothing special.  No grand meaning or whatever... just something to entertain yourself for 2 hours.  For a lot of reasons we don't have that anymore in film... not complaining about it... it's just reality.  We all have too many choices now.

45 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

i disagree on this one. something they did in red october on a different aspect demonstrates why: the cinematographer on hfro realized that he needed some way for the viewer to instantly recognize which sub he was looking at, so he lit each one in a different color. the subterfuge works perfectly, your brain picks it up but you hardly notice at the conscious level. IIRC a similar trick was used in VanillaSky to id dream sequences. 

accents work the same, it maintains a level of illusion identifying the difference in context but still allows you access to dialog you understand. 

yeah that makes sense, especially when you need to contrast.  I do recall reading specifically about that movie and the use of colors to let the viewer know which sub he was watching.

I'm listening to a podcast about Robert Duvall's career. They pointed out some movie he did where he played a Nazi general.  He used a German accent. The other nazis used their british accents.

I remember the first time I tried to watch Hunt for Red October I struggled with Connery's attempt.  My take is just talk.  It's silly to portray a Russian by speaking English in a Russian accent...  Just talk normal or speak Russian and use subtitles.  

8 hours ago, Tiger337 said:

I never heard that expression until I just saw it over and over again in a book recently: "The River" by Peter Heller.  Excellent book by the way. 

I thought it might just be a made up expression for the book, but now I know it's for real!

I first saw it in the movie The Right Stuff... Gus Grissom, played by Fred Ward would say it.  Then later on, the clean marine John Glenn almost said it after complaining about the pussy footing around by leadership when Gagarin went up.  He wanted to say but was too nice to say such a thing.

6 hours ago, gehringer_2 said:

Years ago, when local TV ratings wars were the thing, one of the Detroit stations brought in a new crew, mostly hired from out East. The station with the people with most local depth started running commercials against them that highlighted an anchorperson representing one of the foreign imports mispronouncing Gra.tee.ot. It was a very well done takedown.

In the Detroit area there are two road names that betray the foreigner - Gratiot, and for West siders 'Lahser' which the unfamiliar (including too many Detroiters actually) invariably dyslexicly read and pronounce as 'Lasher'

When Van Earl Wright had his brief stopover in Detroit they had some fun with that concept.  It was a night of a snow storm and they had him take a turn reading the school closings.  When he got to L'anse Creuse the others started laughing like "Ok, how's he going to do this one?'

Another is Westland.  We say it West Land.  Foreign readers of things like traffic and news reports will get caught saying "Westlund"

Near me is a street called Dartmouth.  I say Dart Mouth.  Everyone did.  Then I moved to Croissant after getting married.  I said it "Cruh-sant".  then I got scolded for turning into a snobby Dearborn resident instead of a lowly Heights resident who said "Croy-sent" 

Getting back to parking... if you do use the ParkWhiz app for events, I always suggest typing in the name of the event.  That gets linked to it. It's important for TIger games as if there's a rainout you will get your money back.

But if you can't find a spot in one of the lots on the app, try changing the event to something else.  Sometimes they reserve places for things going on at The Fillmore or Fox or LCA.  

During the playoffs in 2024 when they announced one of the games as a day game, I snagged a spot for $10 beacuse the owners of that lot near Elephant and Co. didn't update their pricing in time.  It was $50 everywhere else.

I used to have a spot at bagley and grand river, next to the gaslight, but honestly once everything went cashless that is why I quit parking there. But you can find some good spots in that area. 

3 hours ago, ewsieg said:

Wonder if I was parked in there that night with you.  We had no idea why we couldn't get out, but it took forever and then it was fine, cars finally began moving and we drove up and all traffic was gone. 

Ever run into an issue where you have an issue getting to a lot that you grabbed a spot via the ParkWhiz app?  That's been part of my hesitancy with it, that i'll pick a spot, be happy with the price and it'll end up where traffic is stupid or construction pushes everyone to one area that I have to go to for that spot.  Whereas without it, if something like that is happening I could just go around and try to find an open lot a little further away and just enjoy the walk.

I’ve never had that problem.   Just avoid those closest. The ones I mention above are usually stress free. Depending on where you come from. 

31 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

We come 

If you come in from the West, I like to take 94 to Livernois, South down to Mich Ave, East to Cass turn north, cross Grand River and all the lots on the West side of Woodward are right there. Also an easy exit going back the same way as you stay out of the ramp traffic near the stadium. Haven't been down this year yet but I think those also were $20-30 as of last season.

Similar.  If traffic looks to be backing up near 96 I either get off at Warren and that to grand river or will try to hit the grand river exit, which was closed a long time.  Heading down grand river if you stay in the right you avoid the line of people, who for whatever reason but I’m glad they do, try to turn onto the 75 service drive.  It looks like a backup but you fly right by.  Then turn down Elizabeth near the new UM school.  My lots are either 2130 or 2055 Cass. 2055 is better I thjnk because a right turn exiting takes me to Michigan and I take that back to Trumbull to get back to 96 to 94, avoiding the traffic at grand river and 75. 
 

if there’s a ton of people or an event at Ford Field then I pick a lot by LCA.  For wings games I usually park in the structure if I’m fortunate to get a suite pass, if not then of those same lots and walk it. 

I parked there in the beginning of Comerica but once got stuck via a stalled vehicle so never again.

The free and low cost parking around the stadium are pretty much gone with new construction going on.  I now use the ParkWhiz app to get parking ahead of time as many of the lots are part of their system.  You pay ahead of time and get a barcode to get in.  If you want to try street parking over off of Cass north of 75 that's an option if you don't mind walking.

It's usually in the $20-30 range.  

that's great.

The home jersey with the hat D is not as unique to me as the one they used for the 60 years prior so I don’t care about it anymore. 

Not for nothing but Oprah needs to be held accountable somewhat for unleashing Dr Oz and Dr Phil on us.  I don’t know how.  Maybe just shaming. 

Was it ever alleged they did something when it seemed like we had a no hitter every night?

That’s a distinction with a difference. It’s a matter of degree but not principle. I think you are missing the overall point that actually supports your argument.  The left is not as single minded as the right. There’s a big divide.   If I were running for office here as a Democrat and said “I think netenyahu is a murderer and what they’re doing in Gaza is horrible” many on the left would abandon me and I’d have no shot.  If I said Hamas are terrorists and Israel should be able to defend itself…  I lose a bunch of others   The point is within the left are distinct groups with very absolutist positions on Middle East politics. Any statement about one side that doesn’t include a “but…..” is a career killer now. 

My problem is when it seems forced. I can see the Red Sox doing their thing on marathon Monday because it’s organic. There’s a direct link and they always played early on that day.  But you can’t force this stuff. I thjnk San Diego did something similar with camo jerseys and that city is almost synonymous with the Navy stuff there. That’s all fine. But don’t force Kansas City and Detroit and the Dodgers into something that’s not immediately evident. 

I think Aldi by design is supposed to be cluttered and cramped.   I love Aldi.

There's people bitching that they don't use British accents in the upcoming Odyssey.

I guess that's supposed to be the standard of ancient historical pieces.

7 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

Except that that is exactly what Israel is doing today in the West Bank. The State of Israel has bought and paid for the critique they are getting. 

Having sympathy with anyone is dubious when there are no good guys. 🫤

There are no good guys and I refuse to say "yeah but....." when criticizing one or the other.    I have many friends, people I could text right now and get a response, who have had families either killed or houses destroyed in Lebanon by Israel. 

4 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

It doesn't break on a particularly consistent pattern. Just as an example, it's GOP candidates for Michigan Regent seats that have been the most outspoken in opposition to the shout out to the Palestinian activists in the UM commencement speech while it is a board with a majority of pretty mainstream Democrats that has been roundly criticized for allowing the mood on campus to become toxic/dangerous to Jewish students in the first place. 

If a democrat running for office in Michigan spoke out against anti-semitism their poll numbers in the primary would go down.  It's the left politicians that have to tap dance.  The right wing, not so much.  They can be pro israel all they want.

agree with your assessment.  This is a case where many things are true all at the same time.  There is a genocide in Gaza and what many in the IDF and others are doing is horrific.  I just read something yesterday about rapes and beatings of women and children.  What happened on Oct 7, 2023 is equally horrific.  Netyenyahu is a bitch and finally got Trump to do his bidding.  He's a horrible individual.  Jews are being targeted with antisemitism and also people conflate criticism of the government in Israel with anti semitism.  It's all true.  But too many are forced to pick "sides" and have to tread lightly without offending someone who they also agree with on nearly everything.  I refuse to pick a side and pretend that's pure and free from atrocities.  

Was Verlander transferred to the 60 day DL?  I have been kind of out of the loop.

I'll have a little fun.

Not sure if I or someone else has told this "joke" before.

According to B-R, 3 Tigers have worn it and I have no memories of the 2 who wore it last year wearing it...

Matt Gage and Rafael Montero.

The unique history of the number is why I don't like it.  It's like Bull Durham and the fungus on shower shoes.

The Kroger on Ecorse is so much better than our options.  That's become my place if I need to go to one. 

But usually we do Dearborn Farm Market or Westborn.