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3 hours ago, gehringer_2 said:

true, but being reversed in real time on broadcast games it a whole 'nother level of exposure to face compared to t some charts on a website somewhere.

yep.  95% of fans don't see those charts.

But when an umpire has to constantly point out his call was wrong in front of the camera?

Prime has a streaming channel of AMC shows and I routinely throw that on if it's BB or BCS.  Even during that format it's better.  BB was great and I get why some like it more than BCS. I'm not knocking it.  BCS had more depth.

29 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

agree. ABS will just act as a limit to how bad a pitch you are likely to be able to 'promote' 

My question was more about any value you place on a catcher for being “good” at it. Is that a thing?  I don’t know. 

I wonder what this will do with pitch framing. 

12 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

It is exactly set up so no one get to see video before the challenge is made - it has to be a player's live judgment vs the Ump's live judgement. I'm actually OK with that.

Me too. And I will grant hitters leeway early on as they have to learn to trust their instinct. The reactions I’ve seen make it sound like it’s part of a deep strategy. I don’t think so. There’s no time for that.  Some guys may see numbers and find out “I would have won these so I will challenge more”. 

I’ve tried twice to get into him and I just can’t. I know he’s great and am not knocking him or his fans. Just not for me.  

1 hour ago, kdog said:

Tork said that they did not act in time to get a challenge. It's like 6-8 seconds and then the ump moves on. They don't let you check with the dugout. They just have to do it and deal with the consequences. Hinch has not put a limitation on anyone.

I believe it’s less than that. Almost instantaneous. One hitter was denied because he sort swung his bat back up to set himself up for the next pitch. Less than 2 seconds. 

He’s done opening day before. I’m sure he will be there even as a fan if he’s not got an obligation of some sort. 

33 minutes ago, chasfh said:

Beau Brieske #4

I totally read that name too when looking and still skipped past it. 
 

Gehringer wore #3 briefly and Greenberg #7. 

Tiger pitchers wearing single digits as a uniform number  

#2 Al Aber 1953, Elon Hogseth 1944
#5 Jake Mooty 1944
#6 Art Houtteman 1946
#8 Bots Nekola 1933
#9 Jack Flaherty, Jack Wilson 1947
 

6 minutes ago, holygoat said:

I watched a video on the analytics of batters challenging calls, and the short of it said that challenging early in games or in low-leverage ABs is generally unwise unless it's an absolutely egregiously bad call.

And I’m wondering if they are sort of tracking themselves. See how much they can trust their initial gut. “Am I good at this?”

20 minutes ago, chasfh said:

I think Goldwater could have been talked into it. Ike, maybe not so much. Definitely not the Bushes. I'm 50-50 on Reagan, too.

Read up on his wiki page. I don’t think Goldwater would have went along.  He consistently spoke out against the religious right and in tne 80s and 90s said the party had been taken over by kooks. 

Interesting. I will play with DVRing tonight on xfinity 

Goldwater and Ike would not be republicans today. Nixon might have been what Lindsay Graham is. Definitely not the Bushes. Reagan is someone I am not sure on. I could argue both ways.  I wish I could have seen what William F Buckley would have w written 

The abandonment of those principals by those in power, I know many intellectuals still cling to it and are never trumpers, but i mean the politicians themselves,tells me the principals were just bull**** to rope in voters for the real battle-the culture war. 

The best nicknames are ones you wouldn’t know right away  

He had a special character  Ka$h69

8 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

He probably does the squat cobbler. 

That guy set off the BB universe.

That got Mike in touch with Nacho with got mike with Gus, which got Walt in touch with Gus...

all for some baseball cards

this fits..... for him the Presidency is a TV show and a storyline gets stale.  

26 minutes ago, Shinzaki said:

Chris Ilitch's wife is a looker

That Not his daughter?😜

I will say this. With MLB doing the game we might see more stuff like this pregame. They didn’t usually show all of this did they?

Kevin looks like a player from 1985. 

14 hours ago, VegasTiger said:

Hyperbole. Vegas is fine.

I get pushed Vegas content and this is a common theme from these folks.  "Vegas is fine".

My wife just went to the airport to go to Dallas.  She waited 3 minutes at TSA.

Derek Hill on the White Sox is so White Sox. I can't explain it but it is.