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6 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

The same as the Tigers surge in '24 wouldn't have been possible without the Twins collapse?

yes.  They went 9-18 in September, in addition to losing 4 of 5 to close out August.  That's what makes these kinds of things so remarkable.

I've always defended the 2009 Tigers a bit for their "collapse".  MN went insane that year to end the year while The Tigers merely lost 4 of 5.  They were 16-12 in September.  THat's not a collapse.  Its a mediocre baseball team.

It's all about the psychological mindset of fans.  When a team does well in the beginning fans are conditioned to think "Well, this is the team.  They're good.  We have a good team.  Yay!"  Then when that team doesn't play so well they're "chokers".  If they start off not playing well they're not a good team.  Then they finish strong and they are "Gamers" and have "character" and are "clutch" and "scrappy".

Reminds me of the Bill Burr bit about swearing and referring to race/nationality.  Black people had the genius idea to put the curse word after the description. 

A white person says "I'm just sitting there eating and this ******** Asian walks in..." 

"Hey hey... take it easy... what's the matter with you??"

A black person says "I'm just sitting there eating and this Asian ******* walks in...."  

"You don't even hear it...  So many careers could have been saved if we'd just put the curse word after".

So for mediocre teams that barely make the playoffs... win later, not before. 

3 hours ago, chasfh said:

We are maybe weeks away from seeing agents punching and stomping people they pull out of cars into unconsciousness or death, and also, ripping cameras and phones from nearby people, smashing them, and beating those people to a bloody pulp, too.

The biggest danger is that we simply get used to seeing it and then just tune it out. Then it’ll just be Katie bar the door.

Don't worry.  We've got our "well regulated militia" standing by to fight tyranny.  Right?

That's what they promised.

14 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

I'll remember 2024 more than 2025.  2024 was the most unexpected and remarkable comeback I have ever seen and I hope it does not get forgotten.  The 2025 collapse was really bad, but it's not as memorable because they still made the playoffs at the end.  

Especially since they beat the team that overtook them at the end

16 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

The Tigers divisional collapse of 2025 will be discussed for generations. Any time a team loses a division lead, it will be compared to the 2025 Detroit Tigers.

 

Do you realize that post is as much about Cleveland as it is Detroit?

They surged more than the Tigers collapsed.

1 minute ago, chasfh said:

So, blame Harris 100% for the collapse and give zero credit for the comeback? Got it. Hey, people agree with you.

he's just a college boy more concerned about his haircut and quarter zips than baseball.  

12 minutes ago, chasfh said:

We are maybe weeks away from seeing agents punching and stomping people they pull out of cars into unconsciousness or death, and also, ripping cameras and phones from nearby people, smashing them, and beating those people to a bloody pulp, too.

The biggest danger is that we simply get used to seeing it and then just tune it out. Then it’ll just be Katie bar the door.

When these ICE goons are doing whatever it is they're doing in MN.... how does that make our "borders secure"?  

what's the ****ing difference between when a team wins or loses their games?  They went 3-13 down the stretch in 2025.   A baseball team going 3-13 is not unheard of.  They went 5-13 in May of 2024.  One season is great, the other is horrible?  That makes no logical sense and just speaks to the ignorant sports talk show mentality.  

If fans were told prior to each of the '24 and '25 seasosn they would win 86 and 87 game, the fans would have been ok with that.  

by 'social media' you mean manufacturing of 'kiddie porn'.

That's good to know.  Is that what you do in your church?

They pulled a Law and Order episode that was to air this week guest starring Busfield.

14 hours ago, buddha said:

but i am happy he is getting his number retired and i will probably tear up a little watching all those old highlights.

the red wings getting the russians together and taking players out of the eastern bloc has been told a number of times now, but its still an amazing story how they did it, and it set the franchise up for a 25 year run that has never been duplicated in the modern post original six era.

unlike the penguins or blackhawks or any other team that has won multiple cups, the wings won with different teams and werent gifted generational players thanks to the lottery gods.  they did it through scouting and development.  as a wings fan, that's a source of pride.  and sergei was a big part of that.

Keith Gave said the story has been sold to Hollywood and supposedly something is in production to tell the story beyond that cool doc made a few years ago.

11 hours ago, lordstanley said:

Ha, I was just thinking about her the other day. Turned 16 the night the Wings won the Cup in ‘97. Rode with Sergei in the parade a few days later. 

I have a picture somewhere, up close, of the two of them in the car.  I hope I still have it somewhere at least...  She looked all of 16 too... at the time we were wondering who she was.  In my memory it was that event that made people ask the question.  This is pre internet.

13 minutes ago, guy incognito said:

Oh, FFS

It also felt the need to point out that the mayor was Jewish. In case we’re still trying to figure out whether they’re Nazis.  

Several Tigers at the Wings game tonight. I saw photos of Carpenter, Vierling, McKinstry, Tork, Meadows….  They are doing promo work this week.  I’m going to sometning at the Casino on Wednesday 

He’s still a fascist though.

I mean… if cheering on those guys is your thing. Cool.  We know where you would stand in 1930s Germany.  it makes easier to sort out the good guys, especially when you blatantly tell us.  It gets easier every day. 
 

They’re scumbags. 

Hunter was pardoned to protect him from fascists. 

15 minutes ago, pfife said:

that always made me laugh... even at the time when I supported the guy. I'd still be ok with him as POTUS.

Speaking of fitness..

Nearly everybody in this is doing a Kettlebell swing incorrectly.  And what's funny about Pete is he's being limpwristed about it. This is embarassingly bad.  It's the first thing you learn when you pick one of those up

probably needed them anyway.  Factory blades are ****

7 minutes ago, Edman85 said:

Why is it that it is generally accepted that chiropractors are legitimate doctors and not pseudoscientific quacks?

A friend of mine from 25 years ago was rising the corporate ladder when she had to go on permanent disability after what one of those people did to her.

And Good Riddance. (Do they even look at the title of the song?)

My best example of that is when Fox ran a Princess Di special after she died and it closed with that song.   But maybe they were being clever too.

29 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

And with respect to Sue's post: I am a man, certainly I do not understand every aspect of how women are experiencing this moment. But I have a family and am married to a woman who is not all that separated in age to Ms. Good. One of my initial reactions, once learning the details, is that this could have been any mom who found themselves in the wrong place at the wrong time. 

That's what makes this moment so scary and why it's pissing off so many people. If they would do it to Renee Good, they'd do it to anyone else too

And they subtly shield those fears by pointing out she was a lesbian.  Therefore an “other”. Don’t worry sweetie. They won’t do this to you.  You are “normal”.  Then they just incrementally advance it along until the only safe women will be white,Christian (of certain Protestant sects), non working, and child bearing age. (13-37 preferably).  Of course this excludes the Ms Vance’s of the world.  I’m hopefully exaggerating but maybe not. 

57 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

To Sue's point, this is how Fox News is choosing to cover things:

 

I hate using this term but I’m doing it to speak their language.  They’re not alpha males. They arent tough guys. They’re a bunch of pussies.  
 

I have a lot of CC cards but zero CC debt. Just accumulated them over the years and they send me new ones. I have one affiliated with my bank that I keep just in case I have any issues with my debit card and I leave it home for my son to use in case or any emergencies that came up if we were gone for a few days. That way the balance is readily visible if I open my bank app.  The only one I use regularly is my delta Amex. The perk I get is one free flight a year and generous point allowances for purchases.  I pay it off each month and only use it for regular purchases.  Seems like every other year our flights are paid for and for the others I use points to upgrade to comfort plus. and I reached “status” and got an upgrade to business class once.  Don’t fly more than twice a year. Fine. But while the annual fee is below the cost of a typical flight it’s close enough where I have to think about it.  Don’t care about their clubs at the airports.  Not my scene.  Detroits a delta hub and I go with it.