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29 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

And with respect to Sue's post: I am a man, certainly I do not understand every aspect of how women are experiencing this moment. But I have a family and am married to a woman who is not all that separated in age to Ms. Good. One of my initial reactions, once learning the details, is that this could have been any mom who found themselves in the wrong place at the wrong time. 

That's what makes this moment so scary and why it's pissing off so many people. If they would do it to Renee Good, they'd do it to anyone else too

And they subtly shield those fears by pointing out she was a lesbian.  Therefore an “other”. Don’t worry sweetie. They won’t do this to you.  You are “normal”.  Then they just incrementally advance it along until the only safe women will be white,Christian (of certain Protestant sects), non working, and child bearing age. (13-37 preferably).  Of course this excludes the Ms Vance’s of the world.  I’m hopefully exaggerating but maybe not. 

57 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

To Sue's point, this is how Fox News is choosing to cover things:

 

I hate using this term but I’m doing it to speak their language.  They’re not alpha males. They arent tough guys. They’re a bunch of pussies.  
 

I have a lot of CC cards but zero CC debt. Just accumulated them over the years and they send me new ones. I have one affiliated with my bank that I keep just in case I have any issues with my debit card and I leave it home for my son to use in case or any emergencies that came up if we were gone for a few days. That way the balance is readily visible if I open my bank app.  The only one I use regularly is my delta Amex. The perk I get is one free flight a year and generous point allowances for purchases.  I pay it off each month and only use it for regular purchases.  Seems like every other year our flights are paid for and for the others I use points to upgrade to comfort plus. and I reached “status” and got an upgrade to business class once.  Don’t fly more than twice a year. Fine. But while the annual fee is below the cost of a typical flight it’s close enough where I have to think about it.  Don’t care about their clubs at the airports.  Not my scene.  Detroits a delta hub and I go with it. 

Obviously I understand.  We were part of or supportive of “the machine”.  That machine has been overtaken by others. But I can also see why I was wrong on some things too. 

10 minutes ago, romad1 said:

Someone on their staff wanting to says something or they are saying the cops are right?

It’s rage against the machine so it’s very appropriate for what went down in MN. Like most of their it’s about enforcing control, patriotic language masking brutality, conditioning the public to accept the feds violence, teaching who the enemy is without questioning. 

or it could have just been a cool riff  

Given what I know about the fox producers that make these decisions I expect a heavy Dead presence in the later game. Provided there’s time to do such things given Bobs passing yesterday.  

15 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

oops - Forgot the Detroit City Income tax - 2.4% resident, 1.2% non resident. The City is addicted now of course, but that is a single factor that drove and keeps thousands of small businesses in the 'burbs. If they could ever get off it it would do wonders for small business dev. At the time of the bankruptcy I remember there was some discussion of the State ending all the MI city incomes taxes, but it didn't happen. 

Isn’t or wasn’t there a population requirement to be able to implement such a tax but the state gave them a waiver? I have a population of 1M being it. 

1 minute ago, buddha said:

illinois has 4.9 flat tax and even higher property taxes.  plus a monster sales tax in cook county.  plus the city of chicago and all its exrra fees and taxes....

and is still in so much debt it makes pre-bankruptcy detroit look solvent.

Didn’t Chicago do something really stupid with regard to their parking revenue?  Turned an eventual billion dollar revenue stream for an upfront payment?  I saw something about it once.  

37 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

Michigan has a 4.25% flat rate income tax, which is probably a bit below avg, but generally high property taxes.

Wonder how residency plays into that?  How many guys rent condos/ apartments?  They’re  hardly around during the season.  I suspect most live in the Woodward corridor, Royal Oak and Birmingham. Cabrera’s place was on the water in the Pointes.  I once saw a Kinsler photo on IG where the guys were in his backyard during a holiday coinciding with a full day off at home.  Looked like it could have been the Birmingham/Berkeley area based on the houses.  They certainly weren’t mansions. Backyard garages.  I don’t know why I think about this stuff.  In the 90s a lot of the younger guys lived in some apartments/condos in the Dearborn area. Sparky and Bo did too. 

Bumper music on CBS for the playoff game… Bulls on parade. Coincidence given recent events?  

23 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

Winwood was 15 in 1963 when he was a founding member of  Spencer Davis group.

That’s what threw me off. Like 10 years ago I stumbled upon a concert of his on AXS TV. “Man he looks good…”. I looked up his age and realized he as only in his 60s and was very young when he and his brother were in tha band.  He’s so talented. 

29 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

Nothing says freedom like banning speech you don’t like.

That’s not speech. It’s a product. A vessel. Individual are still free to write and talk.  Freedom of speech doesn’t include the right to an audience. 

2 hours ago, chasfh said:

For as long ago as Bob Weir was famous and as entrenched a name as his has been in rock culture ever since, he was still under 80 years old when he died. This is borderline amazing to me.

I’ll throw in Steve Winwood as a comp for that kind of thing. His first #1 hit was 60 years ago. I know you and I have discussed him before. (Came up on a FB memory a few days ago). 

1 hour ago, Tigerbomb13 said:

Just nothing there upstairs 

I just figured the old guys needed a break and now I’m mad I passed up on seeing them at the Sphere. Got to see him 3 times though so there is that, including kind of an intimate setting at the Fillmore a few years ago. 

Was it announced he was sick?  I didn’t see anything. Must have been fast. 

3 hours ago, mtutiger said:

Just a random observation, but while ICE's ostensible charge is centered around enforcing immigration law, it's noticable how little "immigration" factors in to this operation. Or that they aren't even bothering with the pretense that this operation is about "immigration"... It's purely about harassing a large metropolitan area because they can.

If they keep this up, they are going to end up turning "abolish ICE" into something the median voter actually agrees with.

My problem with this is these voters seem to have short memories.  We are 9 years into this and have been thru several dozen moments that should have been turning points for the average “swing” voter.  
 

A point I saw made recently;  

“Our country isn’t like this because we have Donald Trump as our president.  We have Donald Trump as our president because our country is like this”.  
 

This isn’t directed at you but I am tired of “this is the moment it’s over”.  It will never be over until he’s dead.  There are no such moments.   

I don’t know of a better way to share this here

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DPuTWm7Eomv/?igsh=MXRjb213cXd6dHBlZw==

Damn. He had a hell of a life and I enjoyed watching his IG posts the last few years as he’d stay in shape on the road. 

Why you happy?  They’re basically your party today.  just a different religion.  But same back ass ideals. 
 

The leaders here deserve, and hopefully will get, the same fate.  

With Miggy I always think back to a random game I was at with Oakland. He kept fouling the same pitch back. 4-5 times. It was like he was rejecting it rather than  just missing. “I don’t want that one…”.  Then he got the one he wanted and put it into the seats. I like to think the pitcher was just conceding. “I don’t want to pitch to him anymore”. 

Skubal having Boras as an agent tells me he means business and understands the Tigers mean business too.  Skubal isn’t fragile. He knows what the Tigers are doing.  It’s fine. These numbers and this process will have no impact on his future with the team. It relates to 2026 only. Peoole watch too many movies. 

of course he is. That's what "church" people believe now.  Protesters are terrorists.  They love to shove their morality and holier than thou crap in their face but as we see here it's all bull****.  Terrible witnesses for Christ.

Magasexuals have no choice to but to jump off the cliff with their idiocy and demented logic.

40 minutes ago, buddha said:

how do we know he doesnt?

again, these guys are human.  youre right, they know its a business, but we all work in business.  and not everyone is mature enough to let things go.  i imagine boras has told him everything that you've said, and everything you've said about it being a "business" and he's not a middle schooler is correct, but that doesnt mean he wont take offense, wont hold a grudge, and wont think about it the next time he has leverage....which should be in about 10 months.

because I believe that whatever is inside of him that made him the pitcher he is prevents him from being emotional and petty about such things.

He's made a lot of money.  He's going to make a lot of money in 2026 $19-32M, maybe more if he were to sign a bigger deal.  He's going to make a boat load more.  I'm guessing he's feeling good about life and knows this is a process that he has to go through and at no point so far has anything unexpected happened.

30 minutes ago, buddha said:

as someone who manages a lot of people, if i went into an open process like arbitration and said all sorts of things about how they didnt deserve the same salary as x, y, or z, there would be hurt feelings.  no matter how much money they made.

i know "its a business", but its still hard to hear that your employer doesnt think youre worth what you think youre worth.  baseball players arent robots.

They're also not prepubuscent middle schoolers. But I was referring strictly to the numbers, not what would be said in a hearing.  Skubal didn't see that number and think "WTF?  **** THESE GUYS"