but as always, you have to crawl before you can walk. If Progs won't support moderates over conservatives, they will never move the center close enough to where they are to get anything they want. That's just reality. If we had a three party system where a block could swing it's support to a second moderate party they could have more leverage, but unfortunately (or not, YMMV on that) the US system doesn't and never has worked that way. It has *always* been incumbent on the left and right to persuade the middle before they can get what they want. The left did it in the 30's and 60's, with the social net and civil rights, the right did it in the 80's with Reaganomics. That is just how it works. Party Politics is the US can only be done from the inside out. If you can't persuade your own side, you never get an opportunity to persuade anyone else.