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Geez, even the CBP Union supports this.... lol

That's been a pretty routine experience throughout my work career, fwiw... my politics don't exactly line up neatly on the industry I work in.

I'm sure this is all somehow Biden's fault as well

This is a really good point. Trump may well win in the end, but he hasn't won yet. A lot of hubris on display here

The comments below his thread are just delusional

Yeah, this argument that there may be political reasons behind Biden's support really doesn't change the fact that he's giving them an open net and they are gonna take their ball and go home instead of kicking the ball in. And, in essence, proving all of their critics right. All the other noise doesn't really change that basic fact.

Blinded *by* the politics, as in that is all they care about

Incidentally, one complicating factor on the GOP side is that there do exist people who, agree with them or not, have an earnest desire just better enforcement of the existing law or some tightening of the laws to make the asylum process more orderly. But if I had to guess, they are completely outweighed by the Stephen Miller types who just want to restrict any and all immigration indiscriminately. And as brainless as it is to anyone who can sit and think about the implications for 5 mins, the latter group has all the energy on that side of the aisle.

This is another "118th Congress" classic...

And, in the event that said legislation passes, will gladly take credit for the positives (ie. Bipartisan Infrastructure Bill)

Said laws that, if changes were desired, require action by Congress. You know, the guys who say they don't need to do anything right now.

It's all just incredibly nihilistic, when you get right down to it. The Chamber of Commerce thing is a great example... whether you agree with their general bent as an interest group, they do actually care about policy and have a POV. To paraphrase Walter Sobchak in The Big Lebowski, "say what you want about the USCOC, at least they have an ethos" Most of these clowns in Congress doing a "five minutes hate" on this bill don't care about any of that or really anything other than getting reelected and / or Presidential politics. Just a hell of a system we have. These guys aren't qualified to run a bake stand, let alone be sitting members of Congress.

Just to elaborate, I certainly remember Democrats voting on a bill that resulted in receiving a check with Donald Trump's ugly-ass signature on it, for instance... If the shoe were on the other foot, there's basically zero chance that a GOP Congress would have done that for a Democratic President. None. So no, I don't see the equivalency here.

There was quite a bit of compromise governing during the last Presidential election cycle (ie. the COVID year)

Be that as it may, it seems like a perfect recipe for conservatives to accomplish conservative things in a compromise bill. And the fact that they won't take it kinda says it all.

Yup. Governing is for the birds, performative outrage is where its at.

Trump is more of the symptom.... the reality is that we have a political system where it's better to have the issue fester as a means to gin up anger versus actually doing anything to fix the issue. That would require governing, which it is clear that the people running the House GOP have no interest in doing. Especially in an election year with a Democratic President. I would add that, if Trump were to win and the GOP won both parts of the Legislature, they could take even take this bill and make changes to it that would make it, in their eyes, even better. But again, they are so blinded by politics that they either cannot see it or just don't care about the issue as much as they say.

What a difference a year makes lol

This bill is a laundry list of items that GOP immigration hawks have hammered for years, all negotiated in a bipartisan fashion. And they will not do a thing, because they really don't care about the border. It's incredible

I would also add that the mocking disdain you see from figures on the right over concerns about Trump's rhetoric (Mike Lee being the best example, with his constant invoking of "I'll take the mean tweets") is also pretty frustrating when you are trying to project decent values onto your kids. But it's not 1997 anymore - even then, maybe all the concerns over "values" was just hogwash

Same. As a young parent, it angers me that there will come a day that my son will (inevitably) ask about stuff like that and I will have to explain it.

Indeed... His comments on Powell, his recent comment about how things are going so well because "people think he's going to be reelected", and that he wishes the economy would crash now because he doesn't want to be known as Herbert Hoover.... all very instructive and informative on a number of levels.

Bottomless cynicism lol

There's probably a non-trivial number of Trump voters that would agree with his assessment behind closed doors lol I detest how angry and heated politics has become and would prefer that he continue to try to hold to some level of decorum. But realistically, I don't think he'd lose much by starting to call him out more.

It's honestly kind of incredible - regardless of one's view on the conflict, there's absolutely no reason, at the level of a municipality, for alderman or school board members to be weighing in on this stuff. At least in Chicago, especially now living in the area, one gets the sense that the resolution is feel-good shlock that papers over the other serious issues facing the city at the moment. It reminds me of the GOP Congress at the moment - a lot of useless censures and impeachment inquiries, very little actual substance