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I just want to understand what the Tigers (or the Dodgers) were supposed to do, exactly, to shelter themselves from this particular risk in a negotiation like this. Particularly if the Dodgers were the only real fit in terms of Eddie's contract. It's easy to just put it on Harris for not asking about his wife's thoughts, but in a situation where you are relying on a party to waive a section of a contract, you can't really get around having to place some level of faith or trust in that party following through. The heat comes with the job, but I would like to think we are sophisticated enough around here to be more interested in why this has happened versus just immediately pointing fingers while not having all the details. For the most part, I guess not.

As has been discussed in this thread already, it's entirely possible that ERod may have been on board with this initially and ended up changing his mind as the process went on. Outside of forcing him into a separate contractual obligation to waive his no-trade clause on his existing contract with the Tigers, I'm not entirely clear how you remove the part of the process where you have to take the player at their word.

Speaking from my experience as an employee, I'd rather my supervisor not ask something like that, tbh.

It may be the case, it seems plausible enough. If so, good on Scott Harris for choosing to wear it

His explanation makes sense, but he really trashed his credibility by inventing the AJ opt-out rumours

Sportz didn't even want to trade ERod not that long ago. Just bizarre... no ideological consistency whatsoever

Is Lynn Henning reputable at this point?

I dont necessarily see it that way. And I dont think the players in the clubhouse see it that way. We'll leave it at that. We've flogged the Jeimer horse to death, I'm not going to exhume the debate over ERod's personal life either.

I do think we, collectively, underestimated the complications presented by ERod's contract. Which is a differentiator from some of the other pitchers traded, some of whom were pure rentals.

I'm wary of reading too much into the ERod extension situation, but I definitely do think people underestimate the idea that he would stick around under the right circumstances. Especially given that the org did right by him with whatever happened in 2022 in his personal life. I do hope they work something out. He's a positive to have with this young pitching staff for a few more years.

And getting maximal value means taking risks, sticking your neck out. And that comes with a downside. It's hard to strike that right balance of needing to acquire talent and not just being rolled by orgs into accepting inferior talent. It is entirely possible the Dodgers were the only ones who were offering what they felt he was worth.

There you go

Is this the same Lynn Henning who invented the AJ Hinch opt out clause out of thin air?

I'd like to hear an explanation from JP Morosi... he had a .000 batting average this cycle

Same Gorosh who was arguing to keep ERod about a month ago...

Maybe most of us realized it... the folks on Twitter, OTOH

The reporters are interesting and all, but I sometimes think that they can be as in the dark as we are about this stuff

Maybe they weren't? The Tigers, particularly under Harris, really don't have any info leaks... I'm assuming the leak came from the Dodgers side and, subsequently, maybe they were the ones exerting the Lions share of effort to somehow make this happen.

Baltimore makes a lot of sense

They don't leak information easy, so it's plausible for sure. IDK what will happen, but there are other teams in the market who haven't made moves yet. We will see.

Deals have been resurrected from the dead before too, hence why it can be a useful negotiating ploy. Especially for a team like the Dodgers, who are pretty desperate for pitching Not saying that happens here, obviously...

If they could get him extended, I could live with it... but it really sucks if he opts out after not having the chance to move him. I do think he genuinely likes the Tigers tho

Desperation in the air...

And if Jack Morris were still here..... (ducks)

Just let it go, man