mtutiger

That's fair, but the other counterpoint is the 2022 Midterms.... the assumptions going in largely did not bear out either. It's fine to be concerned, but it's still 16 months out, the GOP still hasn't had any debates and Americans largely aren't thinking about the 2024 Election right now. And Trump, despite being in the news for his legal troubles, isn't necessarily on camera every day reminding the majority of Americans why they can't stand the guy, which will change this time next year.

Fair enough, but I think the MSM framing, if anything, probably oversells it a bit at the moment. Which is sort of what I'm speaking to.

I'm going to highlight this point because, again, I think the decision to move on from Candelario was the first "calculated risk" that Harris took.... aside from whatever misgivings he had with Candelario's style of play, I think he did it with the idea that he could get equal or better value to replace his position in the field. I think what came after Candy is fair game.... Maton has been underwhelming, although has looked somewhat better since coming back up. But it was a decision that had to be made at the very beginning of last offseason, before anything else had happened, and overall decision to move on was fine.... one that most execs in that situation probably would have made even. Lastly, I think the conversation on Candelario really absolves Candy of any responsibility for his role in being non-tendered. He really did earn his way out of Detroit in 2022 and was a major factor in the teams record last year. He shouldn't be let off the hook for that.

Despite G2's framing or the framing that the race generally gets in the MSM, I doubt there are many people who think "Trump Can't Win"

Its no different than when he was the first guy off the market at $5mil this offseason. And it surprised some folks, including around here. He has had seasons, including this one, where he has had some nice baseball card stats, but ultimately there's a lot of evidence that execs around the league don't value his skills in the same way as Detroit beat writers do. This trade is a good example as well - sure, he returned a couple of warm bodies, but they are scratch off lotto tickets in the grand scheme of things. And if Scott Harris made that trade if Candy were here and putting up similar numbers, I suspect he'd be getting raked over the coals for not getting enough value back

I didn't look at the tabs (I dont subscribe to the Times anymore), but the most overlooked part of Biden's disapproval gemerally is that it really is kind of a soft disapproval that is driven primarily by his age. And often is coming from inside the tent from people who would never consider a vote for Trump. Really, I would like one pollster to ask a follow up question of the disapprovers: If you answered disapprove and had to choose between Donald Trump, Joe Biden or neither, who would you vote for? Biden wouldn't end up with a majority obviously, but I suspect it would be some ~20% minority chunk that, added to his approval, probably puts him above Trump more often than not.

Yikes... You cannot fix this

The Nats return is honestly the position player equivalent of the Michael Fulmer trade last year... Just not worth getting angry over. Or for beat writers to shift into armchair GMs over.

I always mark my calenders for when the Tigers face their natural NL rivals lol

I mostly don't care either way.

I mean, it was a pretty underwhelming return, but it says a lot for the valuation that teams around baseball put on him despite his baseball card stats.

I couldn't help myself, ended up engaging him on it. The moves to replace Candy are fair game, but the decision to move on was fine. And as Ed suggests, the return would have been more minimal at $7mil even.

Maybe Evan Woodbury should be GM lol

I honestly didn't realize that Gene Simmons was still alive lol

I take everything Morosi says with a grain of salt, but this is right. And probably explains why it's taking a little more time to develop. If it's 2 PM CDT tomorrow and nothing has happened, maybe then I'll start asking questions.

Yeah, beggars can't be choosers. And tbh, the Tigers have shown a better ability to develop pitching and to sell the place to free agents (see Lorenzen), so I think they could manage even if they don't add to those ranks in trades.

Sure, but overall talent wise, they really should be in "best player available" mode over just emphasizing pitching

This comes across more like speculation than anything concrete

Admittedly I tolerate the guy, but the *****ing about Harris not having made moves when there's been very little movement thus far? Like, can we at least wait until Monday? lol

lol, you just cannot win with some people

True, it's all about accounting for sure.

Surprised they didn't just opt to throw in a couple of duffel bags of used baseball bats instead

It really is my biggest concern in this process.... we, as fans, may hope they get something of value for these two players (or others), but I sure hope that's not what Harris is trying to project, that's all.

Yep, if you even so much as lightly criticize anything MAGA or MAGA adjacent, that makes you an arrogant, elitist coastal snob who is out of touch with reality. If you cheer on Budweiser employees losing their job over the last culture war du jour on the right, that makes you a Real American. Rinse, repeat, etc.

Setting aside the stupidity of this whole culture war item, it's wild to see these guys cheer on people losing their jobs