mtutiger

Having Grapes in his profile picture is a nice touch, eh?

Not knowledgable enough, but I wonder if McGonigle's hit tool (at least as advertised) gives him enough juice to be considered in the Top 5

I know there's been a lot of notice on the glut of high schoolers drafted this year, but one thing that is striking is comparing it to 2022, which was an all-college draft for the Detroit Tigers system. They really kinda needed to get a little younger to prop up the lower levels of the farm system, it stands to reason.

Right... I know they gave Dom Johnson 180K last year, but 300K over for a sub-Round 10 guy seems high to me

Gotta consider the source... it may not be

Not sure if this is accurate, but quite a haul of true

There's a few things going on here: By nature of the discussion surrounding the draft going into it, the fan base was primed for the Tigers picking one of Crews or Langford going into it (both Tiger and national reporters were involved here) Langford is much more high profile given an appearance in the CWS more recently, Clark doesn't have the public tape / record to match. Langford is a college player, Clark is a prep player, which leads to assumptions (not ungrounded, fwiw) that it will take longer to see him if things go well than it does for Langford, who has more experience. The fanbase is separated by two years from the selection of Jackson Jobe over Marcelo Meyer, and there's a segment that seems to have reacted by treating this situation as being the same, when it really isn't (ie. had the Tigers taken Langford at 3, Clark would have gone in the very next pick) Overall, these guys are both extremely talented players.... Clark isn't a Jobe who would have went 15 picks later had the Tigers not taken him, he's a guy who could have easily gone 1-1 in a different draft. And Clark, if he's as talented as advertised, will move fairly quickly one imagines. Either way, I would have taken Langford, but I get the Clark pick, and just the general disposition of trying to take more younger, high school bats in this draft. The bottom of the Tigers system is fairly empty at the moment, and this is a good way to add talent and give the player development staff (many of whom are fairly new to the org) some talent that they can work with and put their stamp on.

Yeah, that was my interpretation as well.

If Greene performs, it'd be hard to believe they wouldn't at least attempt to extend him fairly soon either. The system just needs some talent. If Max Clark was the highest on their board, and I'm guessing he was, take him...

I get it, but the resume (ie. stat sheet) doesn't always tell the story in baseball... drafting and development is more holistic than that. With pitchers, a lot of it comes down to raw stuff and velocity. And if a guy does have some command issues but has plus stuff and velocity, what the player development staff can do to help guys reach their full potential. The flip side is true as well: there are guys who don't have much issue getting college hitters out who don't have the characters to make it at the next level too.

JV was also picked in the first round. Not in the 5th.

And they did... Bennett Lee

I wonder if they look catcher next

5th Round - Jaden Hamm @RandomTigerFan2038452750 on Twitter will probably not love the 5.31 ERA

It's been discussed a lot in the past, but there's probably some value in waiting until later rounds to draft pitchers given the injury risk associated with them. Especially if, as an org, you believe in your believe in your ability to draft and develop them.

Honestly, given how basically none of the experts nailed the first four picks in this years draft, it probably oughtta caution people about giving too much credence to rumors in general surrounding the draft In other words, when some Angels "insider" tweeted something about the Tigers considering Jacob Gonzalez from Ole Miss at 4, maybe it should have been taken with a few grains of salt. Or even the Kyle Teel talk.... often times, the stuff that gets circulated is out there for a reason, and it may be more cloak and dagger stuff than reality.

Speaking to the criticism that Clark could take longer to make it to the bigs over someone like Langford, this may be one of the biggest arguments in favor of taking him if, in fact, the Tigers had him ranked higher. The MLB Draft is fun to follow and is important, and you can't completely forget about how players fit into the longer term picture, but I'm not sure it's wise to pencil any of them into lineups 2-3 years down the road.... so if you have a player ranked higher that happens to be a high schooler, the fact that he's ranked higher should probably win out over any sort of shorter term considerations. Somewhat related, but listening to the first half of Cody and Friends podcast this AM, he did bring up the fact that Clark could be entering the bigs as Riley enters into arbitration / knocking on the door of free agency.... theoretically possible, but one suspects that if Riley plays like we think he's gonna play, a long term contract is a definite possibility. Probably the same with Tork, Skubal and others as well. So I get the concern, but it's not like their aren't avenues to ameliorate those concerns either.

I dont know that he's saying that having opinions are bad or we aren't allowed to have them, but rather that people often offer them without the qualification that they don't have all the information. That's less of a problem on this board, but across the rest of social media, just see a lot of opinions offered that appear to be more based on the conventional wisdom offered pre-draft interspersed with bollocks like "Scott Avila" (despite whatever misgivings people may have about the first three picks, it's not at all reminiscent of Avila as far as I can tell). Just lowest common denominator stuff

Maybe. But I suspect the fact that there's a lot more film on Langford (and appearances on ESPN) than Clark has something to do with it as well. Again, I probably would have went Langford, but the people treating Clark like the Jackson Jobe pick just aren't right imo. Clark's ceiling is really high and this pick wasn't at all a reach.

I guess the same people who will not stop bringing up Marcelo Meyer on social media are now complaining that the Tigers went with a high schooler with their 1st Round pick. Just no consistency whatsoever

Seems like a good kid, happy to be a Tiger Godspeed!

I wouldn't have picked him, probably would have preferred someone more polished, but I get it... At least its not Kyle Teel lol

Outside of Crews/Langford going in the first two picks, seems pretty unlikely to me.

On the flip side, Greg Gania is fantastic. I wish they could just give him the TV gig.

And you know that the moment Manning gets injured, he'll be complaining about how Hinch misused him. It's not about being right with most sports radio guys, it's about being loud and provocative. It just doesn't add much to anything