Exactly right. As a Lions fan, I've seen that loser mentality. They're teaching these guys to accept failure. A "losing culture" to give it a name. And I think that finally having success with the Lions, it makes the Tigers failures stand out that much more. As fans, we refuse to accept losing. Ditch Javy and Tork and fire Hinch. We need a manager to yell, scream and start a fire under these guys, like Leyland did back in '06. I know it won't happen, it's just my opinion.