Trumps Presidency 2025

[romad1]

 

[romad1]

 

[CMRivdogs]

A couple more good Goldwater quotes. Sometimes I wish 73 year old me would have had a long chat with 12 year old me...

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“Those who seek absolute power, even though they seek it to do what they regard as good, are simply demanding the right to enforce their own version of heaven on earth. And let me remind you, they are the very ones who always create the most hellish tyrannies. Absolute power does corrupt, and those who seek it must be suspect and must be opposed. Their mistaken course stems from false notions of equality, ladies and gentlemen. Equality, rightly understood, as our founding fathers understood it, leads to liberty and to the emancipation of creative differences. Wrongly understood, as it has been so tragically in our time, it leads first to conformity and then to despotism. Fellow Republicans, it is the cause of Republicanism to resist concentrations of power, private or public, which enforce such conformity and inflict such despotism. It is the cause of Republicanism to ensure that power remains in the hands of the people. ”
― Barry Goldwater

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“‎"I feel certain that Conservatism is through unless Conservatives can demonstrate and communicate the difference between being concerned with [the unemployed, the sick without medical care, human welfare, etc.] and believing that the federal government is the proper agent for their solution.”
― Barry Goldwater, The Conscience of a Conservative

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“I have little interest in streamlining government or in making it more efficient, for I mean to reduce its size. I do not undertake to promote welfare, for I propose to extend freedom. My aim is not to pass laws, but to repeal them. It is not to inaugurate new programs, but to cancel old ones that do violence to the Constitution, or that have failed their purpose, or that impose on the people an unwarranted financial burden. I will not attempt to discover whether legislation is "needed" before I have first determined whether it is constitutionally permissible. And if I should later be attacked for neglecting my constituents' "interests," I shall reply that I was informed that their main interest is liberty and that in that cause I am doing the very best I can.”
― Barry Goldwater

 

[Tiger337]

I did not go to the No Kings protest in my town, although I went to one last year (my first ever protest).  I drove through the area earlier and it looked liked they were getting ready for a big crowd.  There was a large police presence getting ready, although I doubt they needed it.  Last year there was one guy with with a pick up Truck and a Trump 2028 flag driving around trying to stir up trouble, but nobody took the bait.   

[romad1]

9 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

I did not go to the No Kings protest in my town, although I went to one last year (my first ever protest).  I drove through the area earlier and it looked liked they were getting ready for a big crowd.  There was a large police presence getting ready, although I doubt they needed it.  Last year there was one guy with with a pick up Truck and a Trump 2028 flag driving around trying to stir up trouble, but nobody took the bait.   

Where I was the cops were on scene too.  Its planned and organized.  The protest has marshals who wear vests and make sure nobody is getting to crazy.  

  

[romad1]

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2026/03/28/no-kings-protests-michigan-detroit/89334423007/

[romad1]

 

[1984Echoes]

5 hours ago, casimir said:

I work in the packaged foods industry.  Year over year inflation for my specific location that produces shelf stable canned goods is 8.5% for materials in the bill of materials.

That's my language...

[1984Echoes]

2 hours ago, oblong said:

Read up on his wiki page. I don’t think Goldwater would have went along.  He consistently spoke out against the religious right and in tne 80s and 90s said the party had been taken over by kooks. 

The pressure point is when a politician is going to lose his job unless...

He caters to the kooks.

How many Republicans we never thought would've... did just that the past 12 years? Lindsey Graham is an easy one because his spine is made of water... But how many "real" Republicans bent the knee to kiss Trump's feet?

And how many chose integrity instead?

It would be interesting on a tally sheet to see how many bent versus how many left the party to become a Never-Trumper...

I think the NT's get swamped by the boot-lickers... IMO.

 

[1984Echoes]

2 hours ago, romad1 said:

 

That's a lot more than I would expect from...

MAGA Villages (at least as I know of it...).

[GalagaGuy]

I bet half the people at one of these protests today didn't vote for Harris for some made up reason.  They care more about getting some sweet protest photos for their socials than anything else. 

[romad1]

35 minutes ago, GalagaGuy said:

I bet half the people at one of these protests today didn't vote for Harris for some made up reason.  They care more about getting some sweet protest photos for their socials than anything else. 

You can bet all you like.  Use the same apps the white house does when they use insider information to manipulate the betting markets. 

Or, you can bet that the people in Minnesota who were pissed off at the execution of Pretti and Good were just there because of their instagram accounts.  

Go sell lazy someplace else.  

[GalagaGuy]

1 minute ago, romad1 said:

You can bet all you like.  Use the same apps the white house does when they use insider information to manipulate the betting markets. 

Or, you can bet that the people in Minnesota who were pissed off at the execution of Pretti and Good were just there because of their instagram accounts.  

Go sell lazy someplace else.  

You know exactly the kind of people I'm talking about.  In 2016 they were known as Bernie bros but I'm not sure what they've calling themselves these days.  You being so defensive makes me think my comment hit a little too close to home. 

[Tiger337]

45 minutes ago, GalagaGuy said:

I bet half the people at one of these protests today didn't vote for Harris 

That's exactly who I want to see at these protests.  

[GalagaGuy]

1 minute ago, Tiger337 said:

That's exactly who I want to see at these protests.  

I didn't say they were Trump voters.  

[Tiger337]

Just now, GalagaGuy said:

I didn't say they were Trump voters.  

It doesn't matter anymore who they voted for in 2016 or 2024.  It matters who they vote for in 2026 and 2028.  

[GalagaGuy]

They didn't remember the lesson learned after Trump's first term, you think they're going to learn it this time around?  The same people will find the same dumb reasons to not support whomever gets the nomination.  Look around the internet and you'll already see them declaring they won't vote unless their chosen candidate gets the nomination.  

[romad1]

30 minutes ago, GalagaGuy said:

You know exactly the kind of people I'm talking about.  In 2016 they were known as Bernie bros but I'm not sure what they've calling themselves these days.  You being so defensive makes me think my comment hit a little too close to home. 

Yes, I'm annoyed you don't think 50% of the people at these protests give an actual ****.  That's pretty awful. 

[Tiger337]

9 minutes ago, GalagaGuy said:

They didn't remember the lesson learned after Trump's first term, you think they're going to learn it this time around?  The same people will find the same dumb reasons to not support whomever gets the nomination.  Look around the internet and you'll already see them declaring they won't vote unless their chosen candidate gets the nomination.  

They did learn after his first term.  That's why Biden got so many votes in 2020. 

Americans have short attention spans.  

[GalagaGuy]

Some of them only care about new content for their social media profiles, that's a fact.  Go ahead and start looking through the profiles of people posting photos from today and I guarantee you'll find old posts proving my point.  

[Tiger337]

2 minutes ago, romad1 said:

Yes, I'm annoyed you don't think 50% of the people at these protests give an actual ****.  That's pretty awful. 

Yeah, I think most of them care a lot.  Nobody is going to give up their free time to go to a boring protest unless it means a lot to them.  

[GalagaGuy]

2 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

They did learn after his first term.  That's why Biden got so many votes in 2020. 

Americans have short attention spans.  

Trump was a convicted felon by the summer of 2024, seems like that would have been a good reminder.  

[romad1]

I recommend you put your shoes on next time and go talk to some folks.   Maybe that's like saying go touch grass or whatever.   In my little corner of the World, it was a lot of people who are definitely inside the leviathan; who grew up in a system with rules who are shocked and dismayed at the lack of any kind of consequences for all this criminality.  

[Tiger337]

13 minutes ago, GalagaGuy said:

Trump was a convicted felon by the summer of 2024, seems like that would have been a good reminder.  

So? Nobody cared about the Stormy Daniels affair.  That was like a speeding ticket compared to other stuff he has done. 

All anybody cared about was inflation, so they voted against the "inflation party".   In 2020, the voted against the "Covid party".  

Short memories.

If they had a vote today now that Trump his displaying his abject stupidy 24/7, he would lose.  

Edited 6 hours ago by Tiger337

[romad1]

One of the good signs today was "Stormy Daniels was the only person hired by Trump who was qualified to do her job"

 

2 hours ago, Tiger337 said:

So? Nobody cared about the Stormy Daniels affair.  That was like a speeding ticket compared to other stuff he has done. 

All anybody cared about was inflation, so they voted against the "inflation party".   In 2020, the voted against the "Covid party".  

Short memories.

If they had a vote today now that Trump his displaying his abject stupidy 24/7, he would lose.