Trumps Presidency 2025

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55 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

See, people will believe anything they see online.   

[romad1]

Massie is profile in courage stuff right now.  

He's probably a weirdo in so many other ways but man...i need to think there are a few people shaken by their consciouses to do the right thing. 

[chasfh]

17 hours ago, CMRivdogs said:

 

Once they eliminate all the immigrants, who do you suppose they will incarcerate in thee warehouses?

[CMRivdogs]

2 minutes ago, chasfh said:

Once they eliminate all the immigrants, who do you suppose they will incarcerate in thee warehouses?

Everybody over 65 so they (MAGA) won't have to supplement healthcare or pay Social Security.

2) Anyone who doesn't pass their loyalty tests

[chasfh]

15 hours ago, gehringer_2 said:

of course there is an alternate view that both parties are walking dead, that 'political party' as a basic paradigm is dying and is not revivable exactly because the very people you need to be in them (the sane middle) won't go near them anymore. While I keep seeing this talked about, my question is what does it look like in practice? OK - so for starters you run ranked choice primaries and every candidate is a free agent, but how does a legislature function? Firstly, how to have stable leadership to manage an agenda if every leadership vote is an ad hoc exercise among a couple of hundred free agents? Sound like a recipe for getting even less done than the broken legislative processes we have now.

There will never not be political parties. There will always be a move to organize and fund, if for no other reason than to centralize the donor class into a cohesive unit to achieve their governmental aims. There must anlso be a basis for caucuses to form, and membership in a party-like structure is the easiest and cleanest way to form those.

Unless the alternative view you’re describing implies that political parties will devolve into a corporatized trust structure? That, I could see, at least in some dystopian short-term. But the idea that politicians could all be solitary free agents flitting back and forth between caucuses seems fancifully naive.

[CMRivdogs]

Washington warned about political "factions" in his Farewell Address. He feared political parties would place loyalty to the party over the good of the country.

Unfortunately, two of his cabinet members disagreed...

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41 minutes ago, romad1 said:

Massie is profile in courage stuff right now.  

He's probably a weirdo in so many other ways but man...i need to think there are a few people shaken by their consciouses to do the right thing. 

I've been impressed by him in this situation as well. In normal times we need 2 parties but this is not normal times and the GOP has a long way to go before they prove to be normal again.

[romad1]

Bagpipes in protest are awesome. 

 

 

[chasfh]

1 hour ago, CMRivdogs said:

Everybody over 65 so they (MAGA) won't have to supplement healthcare or pay Social Security.

2) Anyone who doesn't pass their loyalty tests

 

[chasfh]

58 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said:

Washington warned about political "factions" in his Farewell Address. He feared political parties would place loyalty to the party over the good of the country.

Unfortunately, two of his cabinet members disagreed...

Q: Hey ChatGPT: are there any countries without political parties?

A: Yes — there are sovereign countries and territories in the world today that do not have formal political parties at the national level. These fall into a few distinct categories: some ban parties outright, others are non-partisan democracies where candidates run as individuals, not as party representatives.

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1) Countries where political parties are banned or effectively nonexistent

These states either legally forbid political parties or their political systems don’t include functioning parties:

• Saudi Arabia — political parties are prohibited; governance is under the monarchy.

• United Arab Emirates — no political parties; consultative body exists but parties are outlawed.

• Kuwait — parties have been prohibited since 1961; candidates run independently.

• Oman — political parties are outlawed; elections (when held) have non-party candidates.

• Afghanistan (under the Taliban) — all political parties are banned.

• Vatican City — there is no party system; governance is ecclesiastical and monarchical.

Note: Some of these are authoritarian systems where banning parties is tied to centralized power structures rather than democratic choice.

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2) Non-partisan democracies (no formal parties)

These are typically small states or territories where elections occur but no political parties exist; candidates run as independents:

• Palau — no active political parties; politics revolves around personal/clan affiliations.

• Federated States of Micronesia — no political parties; governance is non-partisan.

• Niue — no political parties; elections are non-partisan.

• Tuvalu — non-partisan parliament with independent representatives.

• Falkland Islands (British Overseas Territory) — elections without political parties.

Some discussions include Nauru in this category* because its Parliament operates without party discipline even though parties have formed at times.

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3) Transitional/temporary cases

• Burkina Faso — as of early 2026, the military government officially dissolved all political parties, eliminating the party system.

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Clarification: One-party states vs. no-party states

• One-party states (e.g., China, Cuba, North Korea, Eritrea) have only one officially legal political party; other parties are banned or permitted only in name.

• No-party states (listed above) have no legal parties at all; candidates are independents or the system doesn’t incorporate party organization.

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Summary Table

Category	Examples
Parties banned (no party system)	Saudi Arabia, UAE, Kuwait, Oman, Afghanistan (Taliban), Vatican City
Non-partisan democracies (no parties exist)	Palau, Micronesia, Niue, Tuvalu, Falkland Islands
Transitional (party system removed)	Burkina Faso (2026 military decree)

I	am willing to take this information at face value because it passes the smell test.

[Screwball]

Thomas Massie didn't kill himself.