Red Wings Offseason 2025

[Shinzaki]

I am officially shocked..the Athletic says no salary retained.  

[slothfacekilla]

I think Tarasenko will rebound a bit next season (year removed from his father's death + contract year) but I am happy to have his cap and roster space available. 

[Mr.TaterSalad]

I'm glad this trade was made and Tarasenko is not on the roster any longer. I'm glad that we didn't have to retain any salary to move him. I'm hopeful there wasn't a high round pick included in moving him out, add there was with Wallman. I'm glad Yzerman essentially admitted this signing was a failure and traded him out of here. But, it's still on Yzerman that he signed him in the first place. 

[slothfacekilla]

5 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

I'm glad this trade was made and Tarasenko is not on the roster any longer. I'm glad that we didn't have to retain any salary to move him. I'm hopeful there wasn't a high round pick included in moving him out, add there was with Wallman. I'm glad Yzerman essentially admitted this signing was a failure and traded him out of here. But, it's still on Yzerman that he signed him in the first place. 

The Wings' official announcement did not include anything besides Tank and future considerations, so no draft pick or retention.

[Jason_R]

21 minutes ago, Shinzaki said:

Suter/Parise was a Babcock issue...I think.  I think if we become more competitive...we'll attract more talent.

 

But until the team becomes more competitive they will have to overpay for talent. And they won’t really be competitive until 27-28. It seems unlikely they can sign a big time forward without a serious overpay but if they could use the McLellan connection to lock down Gavrikov long term I would be fine with it. Otherwise, let the kids play and if they need to be a lottery team another year, so be it. 

[lordstanley]

I'd take Boeser for sure, but no idea if the Wings are in on him. 

[Hongbit]

I could be wrong but I don’t buy that Detroit is now an undesirable destination.  I think it’s a convenient excuse used to defend an incompetent front office.  
 

 It’s not what it was in the heyday but it’s not Calgary or Buffalo.  It’s a middle of the road organization with very high upside in the future.  A competent GM could sell the vision that it’s a talented young team that’s right at opening its window to be a playoff team every year.   

[Hongbit]

FWIW, Suter/Parise had less to do with the Wings and more to do with being sold the dream to come back home and make NHL hockey matter in Minnesota

[slothfacekilla]

 

 

[Shinzaki]

That's a nice deal for the Wings...hopefully he's on the 3rd pairing with Chiarot this year

[Jason_R]

1 hour ago, Hongbit said:

I could be wrong but I don’t buy that Detroit is now an undesirable destination.  I think it’s a convenient excuse used to defend an incompetent front office.  
 

 It’s not what it was in the heyday but it’s not Calgary or Buffalo.  It’s a middle of the road organization with very high upside in the future.  A competent GM could sell the vision that it’s a talented young team that’s right at opening its window to be a playoff team every year.   

What were the magic moves that Yzerman could have made to compete with the dynamic McDavid/Draisatl duo, or with the depth of Florida?

Like it or not, the roster and minor league system were barren when he arrived. He has replenished the minors and some of his early draft picks are now cornerstone pieces. But the franchise is at least two years away from anything like a window opening. 

In the interim he had to sign a bunch of average players just to fill out a roster. The fans are bitching that these FA signings didn’t miraculously vault the team into the playoffs, and that the players were signed for too long and too much, but the fans are now also bitching that he should go back and do it again. 

The roster will soon be in a place where they could attract one or two key FA acquisitions to make a difference. I’d rather them let the kids play this year, then trade Larkin for a haul at the trade deadline. 

[Mr.TaterSalad]

1 hour ago, Hongbit said:

FWIW, Suter/Parise had less to do with the Wings and more to do with being sold the dream to come back home and make NHL hockey matter in Minnesota

As much as I crapped on Kenny over the years, that was not his fault in any way. Had Suter and Parise not been from Minnesota and Wisconsin respectively, and also very good friends with one another, chances are we could have gotten one or both of them. Suter went and wanted to play with his buddy Zach Parise if my memory serves me correctly.

[Hongbit]

46 minutes ago, Jason_R said:

What were the magic moves that Yzerman could have made to compete with the dynamic McDavid/Draisatl duo, or with the depth of Florida?

Like it or not, the roster and minor league system were barren when he arrived. He has replenished the minors and some of his early draft picks are now cornerstone pieces. But the franchise is at least two years away from anything like a window opening. 

In the interim he had to sign a bunch of average players just to fill out a roster. The fans are bitching that these FA signings didn’t miraculously vault the team into the playoffs, and that the players were signed for too long and too much, but the fans are now also bitching that he should go back and do it again. 

The roster will soon be in a place where they could attract one or two key FA acquisitions to make a difference. I’d rather them let the kids play this year, then trade Larkin for a haul at the trade deadline. 

The fans are bitching because almost anyone else would’ve been fired by now.    He was hired in 2019.    It shouldn’t take this long to just make the playoffs a single time. 
 

[buddha]

getting rid of tarasenko for nothing just made my day.

i dont care if he bounces back, he was terrible last year and one of the big reasons they missed the playoffs.

[buddha]

3 minutes ago, Hongbit said:

The fans are bitching because almost anyone else would’ve been fired by now.    He was hired in 2019.    It shouldn’t take this long to just make the playoffs a single time. 
 

yzerman has had one bad offseason, imo.  

he's situating the team to be competitive in seider/raymond's prime.  he's done nothing to mess up that timeline....yet.

[Jason_R]

5 minutes ago, Hongbit said:

The fans are bitching because almost anyone else would’ve been fired by now.    He was hired in 2019.    It shouldn’t take this long to just make the playoffs a single time. 
 

it is easy to forget how bad this franchise was when Holland left. Yzerman still has a guy on his payroll who hasn’t played in five years. 

Yes, it would have been fun to see the Wings make it to the playoff and get bounced in the first round. And if the players hadn’t failed down the stretch they might have done so the past two seasons. 

He has rebuilt the system so that in the near future at least he won’t be operating from a position of desperation. Not every decision has worked out but the franchise is much stronger now. 

[Hongbit]

I’m not on him for not competing for cups but he’s been unable to even get them in the playoffs.   Every other GM that is still around from 2019 has either made the cup or had multiple playoff runs.   His results are unprecedentedly bad in the league.  

Nobody ever talks about the coaches.  I’m of the opinion that he kept Blashill on for too long.  IMHO, He really should’ve changed coaches when he first got the job.  He definitely should’ve fired him at least a year earlier than he did.  Hiring Lalonde was also terrible mistake.   The wrong guy that set the plan back more.  Stevie takes very little heat for these coaching moves and I’m not sure why.  

 

[buddha]

he's taken a bit of heat for keeping lalonde too long.  deservedly so.

[Shinzaki]

Bergy signed for a year at 1.825 million

[slothfacekilla]

Meh was kinda hoping Berggren's rights would get traded this offseason

[Shinzaki]

Marner traded to Vegas in a sign and trade (8 yrs for 12 mil a year) ...Ekblad and Marchand resign with Florida.  Provorov resigns with Colu8mbus for 7 yrs at 8.5 mil

Edited 22 hours ago by Shinzaki

[buddha]

6x5.1 for marchand.

provorov for that kind of money is nuts.

[buddha]

bouchard gets the dobson deal.

how awesome does that seider deal look now?

[Jason_R]

1 hour ago, Hongbit said:

I’m not on him for not competing for cups but he’s been unable to even get them in the playoffs.   Every other GM that is still around from 2019 has either made the cup or had multiple playoff runs.   His results are unprecedentedly bad in the league.  

Nobody ever talks about the coaches.  I’m of the opinion that he kept Blashill on for too long.  IMHO, He really should’ve changed coaches when he first got the job.  He definitely should’ve fired him at least a year earlier than he did.  Hiring Lalonde was also terrible mistake.   The wrong guy that set the plan back more.  Stevie takes very little heat for these coaching moves and I’m not sure why.  

 

“Unprecedentedly bad” is a bit over the top. But I agree that Lalonde was an uninspired hire and Stevie let him and Blashill stay past their expiration dates. 

[Mr.TaterSalad]

Wait, isn't Marchand like 37? Is he really going to play until he's 43? Crazy to think he signed a 6 year deal though. I guess he wants to be the new Jarmir Jagr.